Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Hello, a new example that could benefit of this proposal: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10605853 Can someone please go ahead and make a proposal? Many thanks Best regards Francesco Il mer 24 giu 2020, 23:25 Peter Elderson ha scritto: > For the record, I think a transfer role is a ge

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

How would you feel about mapping it with a superroute relation? The superroute would then contain 3 route relations. 1 for the first part by bicycle 1 for the middle part by train 1 for the last part by bicycle If we give the train part a different role in the superroute, we can make it such tha

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Dear Polyglot, it sounds good to me. But what roles do you suggest for such superroute? Many thanks Francesco Il giorno dom 30 ago 2020 alle ore 11:00 Jo ha scritto: > How would you feel about mapping it with a superroute relation? > > The superroute would then contain 3 route relations. > > 1

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

I suggest: role transfer for the transfer part. The transfer part could be a route separate relation in a superroute, the transfer type is given by the relation route type. The transfer part could be a way or a chain of ways in a regular oute relation, the transfer type is then determined by the t

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Hi Francesco, I will create the superroute and route relations as an example. If you don't like the solution, feel free to remove those relations again afterwards. I will only fix a small error in the original relation, but keep it for now, so both solutions can be analysed next to each other. I

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

I uploaded my way to solve this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/11560387 Polyglot On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 12:03 PM Jo wrote: > Hi Francesco, > > I will create the superroute and route relations as an example. If you > don't like the solution, feel free to remove those relations again >

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

True. In that case, a transfer relation in a superroute is necessary. Like all the other roles: do not combine these roles on ways with with forward/backward, use a relation instead. Vr gr Peter Elderson Op zo 30 aug. 2020 om 12:06 schreef Jo : > Hi Francesco, > > I will create the superroute a

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

I was in a hurry to go and eat and forgot to say this: In the Italian station, I added a footway through the station building and across the rails. That's not correct, of course. This should be improved with more detail. Is there a tunnel to cross the railway? A bridge? Do people have to risk it a

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

I think the transfer section only needs the role transfer. The exact way of transport there is tagged on the child relation which is a route in itself. (type=route, route=*). Peter Elderson Op zo 30 aug. 2020 om 13:11 schreef Jo : > I was in a hurry to go and eat and forgot to say this: > > In

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

To clarify: the transfer role could be added to the role value list: *None* or main The role value for the main section(s) of a signposted or in any way waymarked route. alternative A signposted or otherwise waymarked alternative branching off then rejoining the main route at a significantly diffe

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

I saw your changes... LGTM. Thanks! It would be great to have a page to document your proposal. Cheers Francesco Il dom 30 ago 2020, 12:03 Jo ha scritto: > Hi Francesco, > > I will create the superroute and route relations as an example. If you > don't like the solution, feel free to remove thos

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Hi Francesco, I started a proposal on the wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/More_complex_cycle_routes It will probably need to be moved to the proposal name space, but we can work on it over there before putting it up for a vote. Jo On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 3:09 PM Francesco Ansanelli

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Route hierarchy is regular practice.The parent relation holds child relations. This is the case for many types of route, As far as I can see, there are two new elements: 1. A child relation (route section) can be of a different route type. 2. Provided it has a special role Since the type is in t

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

I know that it's possible to look at the type of the child route relation, but I don't think it hurts to be explicit about it in the role. Regarding the 'complex' bicycle relations. I want to use superroutes for other purposes as well. Jo On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 7:53 PM Peter Elderson wrote: >

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - UPRN and USRN

Hi all, Following on from the RFC on the Unique Property Reference Number (UPRN) and Unique Street Reference Number (USRN) for use within Great Britain, please note that these are now open for voting: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ref:GB:uprn https://wiki.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Keep it simple, if the simple solution does not limit you. For the mixed transportation aspect of bicycle routes, I have the gut feeling that separate relations for each segment are overkill. At the practical level, if you take Eurovelo1 (relation 2763798

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

On 31/8/20 8:25 am, Volker Schmidt wrote: Keep it simple, if the simple solution does not limit you. Agreed. I see no reason why a way as a member of a simple route relation could not have the role 'transport'. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@o

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

We've been doing it for years for ferries, so in that case I agree that it's somewhat overkill. In the case of transferring to a train or bus, I don't think it's overkill to be explicit about it though. It seems really odd to me to have railway ways or highway ways with bicycle=no|use_sidepath as

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

'transport' role, 'transportation' role ... is this in use and documented somewhere? In bicycle routes, when the ways are different for the two directions, forward and backward roles apply to the ways in the relation. If a transfer/transport/transportation is to be applied as well, how would you