Hello,
would it be OK to use photo_stand_in as value for the playground key?
Or is there a better British English word to describe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photo_stand-in ?
Or do you think it does not belong under playground?
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> On 25. Feb 2020, at 08:10, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>
> Christmas markets less so.
>
> Delete it.
christmas features are quite established for example in Germany, have a look at
taginfo: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/xmas:feature
I can understand it is an edge cas
I think they should be removed if the really are tracking snippets
(check that the link works without the params).
We don't want someone else to have such knowledge about OSM data
consumers. I don't think they have posted a privacy policy in any case
On 25/02/2020 04:36, Jonathon Rossi wrote:
Christmas markets in German speaking countries (etc) are often mapped in
OSM even though they are only for 1 of 12 months of the year. They tend
to be pretty permanent, being in the same place every year, and being so
large and noticable in a city.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:xmas:
amenity=photo_stand-in as it is a usable public object?
or attraction=photo_stand-in as it is tourist related?
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:16 AM Marc Gemis wrote:
> Hello,
>
> would it be OK to use photo_stand_in as value for the playground key?
> Or is there a better British English word to descr
Am Di., 25. Feb. 2020 um 09:30 Uhr schrieb Jez Nicholson <
jez.nichol...@gmail.com>:
> amenity=photo_stand-in as it is a usable public object?
>
+1
or attraction=photo_stand-in as it is tourist related?
>
IMHO the only true and unambiguously tourism related objects are temporary
accommodatio
Absolutely, I have no wish to delete Chistmas markets. A strong case has
been made for their cultural significance in Germany.
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:25 AM Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
>
>
> sent from a phone
>
> On 25. Feb 2020, at 08:10, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>
> Christmas markets less so.
>
Hi,
On 25.02.20 04:36, Jonathon Rossi wrote:
> Ignoring they've just added an incorrect "website:" key when there is
> already a "website" one, Hilton Hotels appear to be adding URLs with
> WT.mc_id parameters to all their web site links.
The presence of such tracking parameters is an indication
On 25/2/20 6:09 pm, Jez Nicholson wrote:
Temporal events really do not belong in OSM. I can see a good argument
for Parkruns (the route exists in between runs and is used every
week), or for annual shows held on a permanent showground, Christmas
markets less so.
Delete it.
These shows do t
On Tuesday, 25 February 2020, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 25.02.20 04:36, Jonathon Rossi wrote:
> > Ignoring they've just added an incorrect "website:" key when there is
> > already a "website" one, Hilton Hotels appear to be adding URLs with
> > WT.mc_id parameters to all their web site lin
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 03:36, Jonathon Rossi wrote:
> Does OSM have a position on these tracking parameters,
> WT.mc_id, utm_*, fbclid, etc?
I'd be in favour of their automated removal, and adding filters to
prevent their future addition.
We should not, of course, remove either the full URLs no
Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Since OSM is not the place for marketing, I would in these
> situations remove the whole POI, and not just the tracking
> parameters.
¿Que? You'd remove an entire hotel from the map because... ok, I'm having
trouble finishing that sentence: because what exactly?
cheers
Ric
Hi,
On 25.02.20 11:08, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Frederik Ramm wrote:
>> Since OSM is not the place for marketing, I would in these
>> situations remove the whole POI, and not just the tracking
>> parameters.
>
> ¿Que? You'd remove an entire hotel from the map because... ok, I'm having
> troubl
Hi,
On 25.02.20 11:01, Philip Barnes wrote:
> Another issue I have with Hilton Hotels is all edits are made either made by
> a single user, or the account is being shared between multiple users.
Has someone contacted them about the issue already? If they're a single
person we could request that
Frederik Ramm wrote:
> I'd remove things from OSM that have been clearly added as part of
> an advertising campaign, because that means the information is not
> trustworthy. The purpose of an advertising campaign is not to
> provide unbiased, factual information, hence OSM cannot be the
> vehicl
On 25/02/2020 10:16, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
On 25.02.20 11:08, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Frederik Ramm wrote:
Since OSM is not the place for marketing, I would in these
situations remove the whole POI, and not just the tracking
parameters.
¿Que? You'd remove an entire hotel from the map beca
I have commented on a recent edit near me asking both questions and pointing
out the url they should use.
Phil (trigpoint)
On Tuesday, 25 February 2020, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 25.02.20 11:01, Philip Barnes wrote:
> > Another issue I have with Hilton Hotels is all edits are made eithe
On 20-02-25 04:36, Jonathon Rossi wrote:
> Does OSM have a position on these tracking parameters, WT.mc_id, utm_*,
> fbclid, etc? I couldn't find anything on the wiki.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:website
It's implied in the following best practice:
Use as short a URL as possible.
Hi,
On 25.02.20 11:27, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> But more broadly, we value data for its correctness
True. (There's a few other things we value too, but correctness
definitely is nice.)
> You are inventing a suspected rationale ("an
> advertising campaign")
Tracking components in an URL are us
Jez Nicholson wrote:
> Whilst I'm firmly against tracking codes, we could give the benefit of
> the doubt and assume that they just cut-and-paste the URL and did
> not intend to place tracking.
Yes. And we don't even need to do that: we can verify it with about 30
seconds' Googling.
Looking at
Frederik Ramm wrote:
> The fact that advertising and correctness do not usually go hand in
> hand certainly needs no discussion.
Er, yeah, it does actually. In the UK, at least, you're not meant to claim
incorrect things in adverts. There's a body called the Advertising Standards
Authority that p
On Tuesday 25 February 2020, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>
> But more broadly, we value data for its correctness, not for its
> provenance (assuming licence-compatible). You are inventing a
> suspected rationale ("an advertising campaign") on the part of the
> contributor; judging them by your own sta
Hi,
On 25.02.20 11:59, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Yes. And we don't even need to do that: we can verify it with about 30
> seconds' Googling.
Ok ok you're right.
The URL does contain a tracking token but it does not exclusively track
OSM usage.
I have overreacted because I have in the past deal
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 11:21, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> (Apparently in this particular case, not only the WT.mc_id parameter is
> decorative, the whole hotel name is; even
> https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/bhxsadi-camping-in-the-woods/ directs
> you to
> https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/bhxsadi-dou
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:40 PM Victor/tuxayo wrote:
>
> On 20-02-25 04:36, Jonathon Rossi wrote:
> > Does OSM have a position on these tracking parameters, WT.mc_id, utm_*,
> > fbclid, etc? I couldn't find anything on the wiki.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:website
>
> It's impli
Feb 25, 2020, 13:06 by j...@jonorossi.com:
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:40 PM Victor/tuxayo <> vic...@tuxayo.net> > wrote:
>
>>
>> On 20-02-25 04:36, Jonathon Rossi wrote:
>> > Does OSM have a position on these tracking parameters, WT.mc_id, utm_*,
>> > fbclid, etc? I couldn't find anything
Feb 25, 2020, 12:21 by frede...@remote.org:
> Hi,
>
> On 25.02.20 11:59, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>
>> Yes. And we don't even need to do that: we can verify it with about 30
>> seconds' Googling.
>>
>
> Ok ok you're right.
>
> The URL does contain a tracking token but it does not exclusively tr
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:22 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
> I added explicit
> "**It means that tracking parameters (mc_id, utm_*, fbclid etc) should be
> removed"
> in
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:website&diff=1962111&oldid=1941
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 05:01, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> These shows do take place at a permanent site.
>
> They take place annually, floods, fire, droughts and wars excepted.
>
> The dates may vary depending on various things, but usually around the same
> time each year.
>
> They are
Feb 25, 2020, 07:51 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:
>
>
> sent from a phone
>
>> On 25. Feb 2020, at 04:37, Jonathon Rossi wrote:
>>
>> Does OSM have a position on these tracking parameters, WT.mc_id, utm_*,
>> fbclid, etc? I couldn't find anything on the wiki.
>>
>
>
>
> I guess this should bette
Hello all
I've noticed that recycling:food= has been added [1] to
amenity=recycling wiki page with the meaning "community fridge [2] to
help reduce food waste".
[1]:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:amenity%3Drecycling&diff=1908674&oldid=1906084
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 15:47, Markus wrote:
> I've noticed that recycling:food= has been added [1] to
> amenity=recycling wiki page with the meaning "community fridge [2] to
> help reduce food waste".
>
> [1]:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:amenity%3Drecycling&diff=1908674
On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:30:13 PM EST Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 15:47, Markus wrote:
> > I've noticed that recycling:food= has been added [1] to
> > amenity=recycling wiki page with the meaning "community fridge [2] to
> > help reduce food waste".
> >
>
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 18:31, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
wrote:
>
> I agree with your thoughts re not using amenity=recycling. I've tagged
> a couple of Community Fridges near me as
>
> amenity=social_facility + social_facility=community_fridge
>
> as this tagging (although not documented anywhe
Hi,
isn't this exactly what a amenity=give_box is? Just for food and not for
toys or clothes.
With your proposed tags, we would need yet another one for non-cooled
food, so this is a bad idea in my opinion.
So, I suggest:
amenity = give_box
food = only
refrigerated = yes
Jan
On 25.02.20 16:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 19:44, Jan Michel wrote:
>
> Hi,
> isn't this exactly what a amenity=give_box is? Just for food and not for
> toys or clothes.
Yes, similar. On the other hand, public bookcases, which have their
own tag, are also kind of give boxes.
> With your proposed tags, we would need
On 2/25/20 4:05 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 03:36, Jonathon Rossi wrote:
>
>> Does OSM have a position on these tracking parameters,
>> WT.mc_id, utm_*, fbclid, etc?
>
> I'd be in favour of their automated removal, and adding filters to
> prevent their future addition.
+1. I
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 20:46, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
>
> On 2/25/20 4:05 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> > We should not, of course, remove either the full URLs nor the whole
> > PoIs, since that would open us up to attack from bad actors
> > masquerading as the companies whose commercial sites we depic
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 16:56, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> generally, I thought that was agreed, we do not map events, but we do map
> places where events take (regularly) place.
>
But I have seen a few places on the map where a street motor race is held
once a year, but they are mapped as a mot
Feb 25, 2020, 23:16 by graemefi...@gmail.com:
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 16:56, Martin Koppenhoefer <> dieterdre...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
>> generally, I thought that was agreed, we do not map events, but we do map
>> places where events take (regularly) place.
>>
>
> But I have seen
On 26/2/20 1:35 am, Jarek Piórkowski wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 05:01, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
These shows do take place at a permanent site.
They take place annually, floods, fire, droughts and wars excepted.
The dates may vary depending on various things, but usually around t
On 26/2/20 9:35 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
Feb 25, 2020, 23:16 by graemefi...@gmail.com:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 16:56, Martin Koppenhoefer
mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote:
generally, I thought that was agreed, we do not map events,
but we do ma
On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 08:36, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> But I have seen a few places on the map where a street motor race is held
> once a year, but they are mapped as a motor racing track, with a
> description "whatever race held the first weekend of Octo
On 26/2/20 9:57 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 08:36, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
But I have seen a few places on the map where a street motor
race is held once a year, but they are mapped as a motor
ra
On 25/02/2020 22:16, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
But I have seen a few places on the map where a street motor race is
held once a year, but they are mapped as a motor racing track, with a
description "whatever race held the first weekend of October".
The more normal mapping approach is like i
Hello Markus
Thank you for starting this discussion. I have plans to start a feature propose
for food sharing.
I found four tags that people use for food sharing
social_facility=food_sharing, amenity=food_sharing,
social_facility=community_fridge and recycling:food=yes.
https://taginfo.openst
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