Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

2020-02-19 Thread European Water Project
Dear All, The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill water bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent passes with 13 positive votes and three abstentions. Please note, that to be tagged drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

2020-02-19 Thread European Water Project
Hi Again, In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it is worth discussing the suggestion of Kovposch to make refill a namespace and use the word network. This would change the second tag of the tag pair to drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;netwo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

2020-02-19 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Joseph In British English the phrase has the same meaning as you describe. The most common usage is in taxation terms when an employee receives a benefit that is not money. Examples can be a cars, housing. My reaction to this proposal was the same as yours, they are describing a charity shop

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

2020-02-19 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
OK, so "in-kind" is usually referring to a type of payment, in good or services, rather than a type of donation. I'm sure the charity shops have to account the value of donated second-hand clothes as "in-kind" donation income for tax purposes, but that's not how an oridinary British person would t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

2020-02-19 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > OK, so "in-kind" is usually referring to a type of payment, in good or > services, rather than a type of donation. > > I'm sure the charity shops have to account the value of donated > second-hand clothes as "in-kind" donation income for

Re: [Tagging] Tagging the presence or absence of signs for surveillance cameras

2020-02-19 Thread marc marc
Le 19.02.20 à 04:29, Victor/tuxayo a écrit : > Coincidentally there was a recent discussion[2] about these signs in the > french mailing list (talk-fr) which lead to adding the following section > in the page > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made=surveillance I warn that this addition

Re: [Tagging] Tagging the presence or absence of signs for surveillance cameras

2020-02-19 Thread John Sturdy
Whatever the concensus in another discussion was, I think that double negatives will risk confusion, and that *:signed=yes and *:signed=no seems to be a reasonable proposal. I have noticed that some but not all of the surveillance cameras (city council, I believe) in Cambridge (UK) have signs. __

Re: [Tagging] Tagging the presence or absence of signs for surveillance cameras

2020-02-19 Thread Jez Nicholson
In general, are these signs physically on the camera, or are they in the vicinity? If so, should they be tagged objects in their own account? On Wed, 19 Feb 2020, 10:54 John Sturdy, wrote: > Whatever the concensus in another discussion was, I think that double > negatives will risk confusion, an

Re: [Tagging] Tagging the presence or absence of signs for surveillance cameras

2020-02-19 Thread John Sturdy
On the ones I've noticed in Cambridge, they are either on the lower part of the pole supporting the camera, or, for building-mounted cameras, on the wall below the camera. (The cameras are well above head height, and notices on them would not be readable unless very large.) On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging the presence or absence of signs for surveillance cameras

2020-02-19 Thread Peter Elderson
I think a warning sign is legally required in Nederland. I don't think it's very useful to register the absence or presence of mandatory warning signs in OSM. If it is not there, report it to whoever is supposed to maintain or enforce it. If you want to register incidents to make a stand, an ushahi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging the presence or absence of signs for surveillance cameras

2020-02-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 19 feb 2020, alle ore 04:31, Victor/tuxayo ha > scritto: > > > In countries where the public must be notified of surveillance cameras, the > > following tags could be used on the node: > > > > tourism=information > > information=board > > board_type=

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

2020-02-19 Thread Steve Doerr
On 19/02/2020 09:11, Philip Barnes wrote: In kind is not the phrase we would use, we would call it a donation. A donation could be money (probably the most common type) or something else. If I wanted to distinguish the latter from the former, I might well choose to talk of a 'donation in kin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

2020-02-19 Thread Markus Peloso
Hi Thanks for all your inputs. I read them with interest. I changed the name of the tag to "donation_in_kind" and add some improvements. I agree that shop=charity and shop=second_hand may imply "donation_in_kind=yes". My intention is that I can tag goods donation for a charity project or network.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

2020-02-19 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
My concern is still that it might be hard to translate "donation in kind" from English into some languages, and that people with limited English vocabulary might not understand the phrase. Automated translations by Google from "donation in kind" gets this: Spanish: "donación en especie" - literal

Re: [Tagging] Tagging the presence or absence of signs for surveillance cameras

2020-02-19 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 19.02.20 um 12:45 schrieb Jez Nicholson: > In general, are these signs physically on the camera, or are they in the > vicinity? If so, should they be tagged objects in their own account? In supermarkets and other shops, I do not map surveillance cameras individually. Instead, I just put su

[Tagging] Expressway=yes/no versus new tags "dual_carriageway=yes/no", "limited_access=", "grade_separated"=?

2020-02-19 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I updated the Key:expressway page to have a global focus, rather than being United-States-specific. But I noticed that the key:expressway is currently used in 2 different ways. While all expressways are major roads designed for high-speed motor vehicle traffic, they are not often "motorroad=yes",

Re: [Tagging] Expressway=yes/no versus new tags "dual_carriageway=yes/no", "limited_access=", "grade_separated"=?

2020-02-19 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I've created a page for Key:dual_carriageway based on existing usage in the database: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:dual_carriageway On 2/20/20, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > I updated the Key:expressway page to have a global focus, rather than > being United-States-specific. > > But I noti

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi

2020-02-19 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I would like to formally request comments on the proposal for amenity=motorcycle_taxi: "A place where motorcycle taxis wait for passengers" https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:amenity%3Dmotorcycle_taxi In many countries, motorcycles for hire are much more common than automo