On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > OK, so "in-kind" is usually referring to a type of payment, in good or > services, rather than a type of donation. > > I'm sure the charity shops have to account the value of donated > second-hand clothes as "in-kind" donation income for tax purposes, but > that's not how an oridinary British person would talk about donating > some used books or toys, right?
In kind is not the phrase we would use, we would call it a donation. Phil (trigpoint) > > Joseph Eisenberg > > > > On 2/19/20, Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> wrote: > > Hi Joseph > > In British English the phrase has the same meaning as you describe. > > > > The most common usage is in taxation terms when an employee receives a > > benefit that is not money. Examples can be a cars, housing. > > > > My reaction to this proposal was the same as yours, they are describing a > > charity shop. > > > > Phil (trigpoint) > > > > On Tuesday, 18 February 2020, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > >> While "in-kind donation" is an English phrase, it is not commonly used > >> and it also includes donations of services, rather than just goods. > >> > >> See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_kind "in kind refers to goods, > >> services, and transactions not involving money or not measured in > >> monetary terms." > >> > >> "In Kind: consisting of something (such as goods or commodities) other > >> than money" (Merriam-Webster) - also says "first known usage 1973". > >> > >> "In Kind: (of payment) given in the form of goods or services and not > >> money" or "If you do something in kind, you do the same thing to > >> someone that they have just done to you." (Cambridge) > >> > >> This might be difficult for mappers to understand, unless this phrase > >> is more common in British English than it appears (I'm an American > >> English speaker). > >> > >> I believe this proposal is focused on donations of things: physical > >> objects which have some value, also known as "goods," "items", > >> "stuff", "things", like those that you can commonly give away at a > >> second_hand shop or charity shop. > >> > >> If that is the case, a better tag might be something like > >> "goods_donation=", "second_hand_donation=", > >> "donation=second_hand_goods" or something with one of those other > >> common words for objects. > >> > >> But perhaps the key should include the type of things, since mostly > >> people will say "donate used clothes", "donate used books" or "donate > >> used furniture" rather than talking about all possible objects: > >> internet searches for those specific phrases find more results. > >> > >> - Joseph Eisenberg > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tagging mailing list > >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> > > > > -- > > Sent from my Sailfish device > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Sent from my Sailfish device _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging