Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-31 Thread bkil
"If someone wants to map them they can. Not up to you or me to dictate what can go into OSM." Sorry, but actually that's not the case. I can't decide to spam the database with an enormous number of entities without discussing with the local & global community. I regularly see reverts for much smal

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I agree collecting this kind of information seems out of scope for OpenStreetMap, but apparently there are a bunch of open solutions available, where you might be able to contribute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_positioning_system#Public_Wi-Fi_location_databases Cheers Martin ___

[Tagging] depreciate recycling:metal in favor of recycling:scrap_metal

2019-12-31 Thread marc marc
Hello, https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/18152 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Drecycling the wiki describe recycling:metal as "ll sorts of metal – possible duplicate of more frequently used recycling:scrap_metal; see below." the wiki doesn't describe recycling:scrap_metal doe

Re: [Tagging] depreciate recycling:metal in favor of recycling:scrap_metal

2019-12-31 Thread Volker Schmidt
What's the difference between "metal" and "scrap metal". I would have thought any metal can be recycled (if the rightful owner is OK with that). What am I missing? On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 14:02, marc marc wrote: > Hello, > > https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/18152 > https://wiki.openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] depreciate recycling:metal in favor of recycling:scrap_metal

2019-12-31 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
There is no useful difference  therefore it is pointless to have two separate tags for that. 31 Dec 2019, 16:27 by vosc...@gmail.com: > What's the difference between "metal" and "scrap metal". I would have thought > any metal can be recycled (if the rightful owner is OK with that). > What am I mi

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi Javbw, so you suggest only a "duty_free=" key with the values "yes|no|designated"? I like your idea of having only one key "duty_free" but I would choose different values. The tags "duty_free=yes" vs. "=designated" might be confusing. My idea: duty_free=yes E.g. Shop in international

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-12-26 06:14, John Willis via Tagging wrote: > However, in airports, there are pointedly "duty free" shops for (all) > travelers. that have no ability to collect taxes for any purchase, so > shop=gifts + duty_free=designated might be a good way to do it for these > specialty shops in int

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi, that's true, the EU is one special case here. But would the status of a traveler influence the tagging schema of "duty_free=*" in your opinion? Hauke signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreet

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-12-31 23:04, Hauke Stieler wrote: > Hi, > > that's true, the EU is one special case here. But would the status of a > traveler influence the tagging schema of "duty_free=*" in your opinion? The EU is only a special case because there are multiple countries within a single customs area fo

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 17:37, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-12-31 23:04, Hauke Stieler wrote: >> that's true, the EU is one special case here. But would the status of a >> traveler influence the tagging schema of "duty_free=*" in your opinion? > > The EU is only a special case because there are mul

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi,   > In terms of tagging, the scenario described could be something like > duty_free=export - meaning YES if you are exporting it beyond the > customs union area (~~EU), otherwise NO. But isn't this always and everywhere the case (as Jarek mentioned before me)? My idea of the duty_free tag was

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-12-31 23:55, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 17:37, Colin Smale wrote: On > 2019-12-31 23:04, Hauke Stieler wrote: that's true, the EU is one special > case here. But would the status of a > traveler influence the tagging schema of "duty_free=*" in your opinion? > The

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 18:48, Colin Smale wrote: > Just to be clear: in the situation I am referring to, an article priced at > GBP120 in such a mixed shop is GBP120 net to an exporting passenger, but > GBP100 net + GBP20 tax (@20% VAT) to a non-exporting passenger. Everybody > pays the same, b

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-01-01 00:54, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 18:48, Colin Smale wrote: > >> Just to be clear: in the situation I am referring to, an article priced at >> GBP120 in such a mixed shop is GBP120 net to an exporting passenger, but >> GBP100 net + GBP20 tax (@20% VAT) to a

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi, > Which OSM data consumer? I personally thought of tourists wanting to buy stuff. As you mentioned, a EU-tourist has no benefit of this duty-free-information, but I also think of tourists (from) outside the EU. As a use case: I think of the OsmAnd app filtering for duty-free-shops where touris

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 19:16, Colin Smale wrote: >> What do you consider a definition of "duty free" or "duty free shop" >> that would be useful to a OSM data consumer? > > Which OSM data consumer? > > Just a reminder: I didn't start this, I am merely trying to add a nuance to > the data modellin