Re: [Tagging] Rethinking Map Features

2019-07-07 Thread Warin
On 07/07/19 10:42, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: From the talk page: I propose to tackle the varying quality of this page in different languages by changing Map Features to a single multilingual page that outputs its text in the user’s preferred interface language. The tag tables can be generated

Re: [Tagging] track smoothness/quality

2019-07-07 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> *"Tracktype* is a measure of how well-maintained a track or other minor road > is..." "... particularly regarding surface firmness." In contrast, on Map Features it says tracktype is "To describe the quality of the surface". The maintenance frequency of a road is not directly observable, so i

Re: [Tagging] Rethinking Map Features

2019-07-07 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> status=de facto means it was in use before the tagging list made up the > approval process, and is generally accepted? The "De facto" is not only used for tags that were created before the approval process started. A number of more recent tags (post-2008) have status "de facto" and are listed on

Re: [Tagging] Rethinking Map Features

2019-07-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7. Jul 2019, at 09:02, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > status=de facto means it was in use before the tagging list made up the > approval process, and is generally accepted? defacto means the tag is in significant use and is generally accepted, and no proposa

Re: [Tagging] track smoothness/quality

2019-07-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7. Jul 2019, at 01:51, brad wrote: > > It is still used for a couple of mines (worked by 1 or 2 people), but mostly > recreational use. if this is an access road to mines it might not be a track but a service road? Cheers, Martin __

Re: [Tagging] track smoothness/quality

2019-07-07 Thread Warin
On 07/07/19 17:40, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: *"Tracktype* is a measure of how well-maintained a track or other minor road is..." "... particularly regarding surface firmness." In contrast, on Map Features it says tracktype is "To describe the quality of the surface". The maintenance frequency o

Re: [Tagging] lit=yes/no threshold

2019-07-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Michael Patrick writes: > You'd probably be okay using the 10 lux indicated by the Illuminating > Engineering Society. But considering that the illuminate area is uneven ( a > notion also covered in the standard ) and usually fairly extensive, and > illumination measurement is a technical skill,

Re: [Tagging] track smoothness/quality

2019-07-07 Thread brad
It's a typical mtn road, used mostly for recreation today, track is appropriate. On 7/7/19 2:37 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 7. Jul 2019, at 01:51, brad wrote: It is still used for a couple of mines (worked by 1 or 2 people), but mostly recreational use. if this

Re: [Tagging] track smoothness/quality

2019-07-07 Thread brad
Do we have close to a consensus that tracktype is not globally useful? The Key:highway wiki page and map_features could be changed from "To describe the quality of a track, see tracktype =*.: to "To describe the quality of a track, use smoothnes

Re: [Tagging] track smoothness/quality

2019-07-07 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
No. While tracktype= has some issues, smoothness= is more subjective and less generally useful. Surface= is very helpful and more objective, so it should be mentioned,but I believe it is already suggested on most of the minor highway, path and track pages. On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 10:24 AM brad w

Re: [Tagging] Test prep centres and cram schools as amenity=prep_school?

2019-07-07 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
TL:DR I think we can use amenity=test_prep or amenity=cram_school for most of these. An alternative from British English would be amenity=tuition, but I think this might not work in many dialects of English? -- I did some more research about this. Apparently Kumon h

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Tag:waterway=tidal_channel

2019-07-07 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Voting is now open for the proposed feature waterway=tidal_channel "A natural intertidal waterway in mangroves, salt marshes and tidal flats with water flow in the direction of the tide" https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:waterway=tidal_channel Please read the page, then a

Re: [Tagging] track smoothness/quality

2019-07-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
8 Jul 2019, 03:22 by bradha...@fastmail.com: > Do we have close to a consensus that tracktype is not globallyuseful? > Why it would be? So far I see need for better guide for using tracktype on rocky surfaces where "subtle on landscape" and "soft" is not the same. _