> *"Tracktype* is a measure of how well-maintained a track or other minor road > is..."
"... particularly regarding surface firmness." In contrast, on Map Features it says tracktype is "To describe the quality of the surface". The maintenance frequency of a road is not directly observable, so it's good if this tag is defined in a way that relates to the road itself. This was the original description for grade5 in early 2008: "unpaved track; subtle tire marks, lack of hardcore, Soft with low grip, subtle on the landscape." https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Map_Features:tracktype&oldid=71778 Until July 2018 the grade5 description mentioned that the materials should be "uncompacted": "Almost always an unpaved track lacking hard materials, uncompacted, with surface of soil/sand/grass." Should "not compacted" be added back to the description, perhaps? Joseph On 7/7/19, brad <bradha...@fastmail.com> wrote: > That is true if the terrain is agreeable. Often it is steep and a very > loose rocky surface so 4wd is necessary. Even if it isn't very steep, > since it is not maintained very often, if at all, erosion creates > hazards in the road also requiring 4wd or at least a very high clearance > vehicle. > > *"Tracktype* is a measure of how well-maintained a track or other minor > road is..." > > > On 7/6/19 6:21 PM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: >> I would think that an unimproved track across naturally solid rock or >> naturally well-compacted gravel would not be tracktype=grade5 - while >> it might be bumpy, it’s probably passable by any vehicke with >> sufficient clearance and tire size, even when wet, unlike a track of >> unimproved clay, silt or loam which requires 4wd or is simply >> impassable when it rains? But I’m not an expert on 4wd. >> >> On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 8:58 AM brad <bradha...@fastmail.com >> <mailto:bradha...@fastmail.com>> wrote: >> >> What wiki are you looking at? At >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tracktype, grade5 says >> "Soft. >> Almost always an unimproved track lacking hard materials, same as >> surrounding soil. " >> >> What if the surrounding soil is hard materials??? >> Clearly written by someone that has not seen rocky soil. >> >> Brad >> >> On 7/3/19 2:09 AM, Mark Wagner wrote: >> > Option 3 won't work. Locally, tracks come in two basic types: >> > >> > 1) A logging road created by a work crew with a bulldozer. Cut >> down >> > any trees, scrape off any remaining vegetation, level the road >> > side-to-side, and call it done. These roads range in quality from >> > "easily passable by a passenger car" to "high-clearance >> > four-wheel-drive vehicle required". >> > >> > 2) A ranch road created by a truck driving the same route >> repeatedly >> > for years. These are generally fairly smooth, but the older >> ones are >> > only passable by a high-clearance truck because of the central >> ridge >> > between the tracks. >> > >> > According to the wiki, these are uniformly "grade5" ("Almost >> always an >> > unpaved track lacking additional materials, same surface as >> surrounding >> > terrain."), although calling them "soft" is misleading, since >> the local >> > soil produces a rock-hard surface during the summer and fall (and a >> > muddy one during spring melt). They're tagged pretty much at >> random as >> > anything from "grade1" to "grade5". >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
