Re: [Tagging] What does recycling:waste=yes/no mean?

2019-04-04 Thread bkil
That's another take on the question, although I don't think that mappers have given so much deep thought into this. It might be helpful to check the geographical distribution of this value to be sure, though. From a user perspective, I only need to decide where to throw out a given item of trash,

Re: [Tagging] Horse mounting steps compared to horse walker

2019-04-04 Thread Warin
On 04/04/19 06:51, Philip Barnes wrote: On Mon, 2019-04-01 at 19:47 +0100, Paul Allen wrote: On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:23, Tony Shield > wrote: and have confidence that this historic grade II mounting block will fit into the schema? Its not presently in use as i

[Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Jeroen Hoek
# Background When tagging a school, as per the current documentation, ideally the amenity=school tag is applied to the school grounds, implying its landuse. This works fine for single schools that have their own building, on their own grounds. However, in many countries schools can share a common

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Tony Shield
Hi Like that. Similar issues in UK. TonyS999 On 04/04/2019 08:55, Jeroen Hoek wrote: # Background When tagging a school, as per the current documentation, ideally the amenity=school tag is applied to the school grounds, implying its landuse. This works fine for single schools that have their

[Tagging] What's the default `access` value? | Re: amenity=place_of_worship | Re: Mapping of indigenous sacred / ceremonial sites

2019-04-04 Thread Rory McCann
On 04/04/2019 00:14, marc marc wrote: Le 04.04.19 à 00:00, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : There are such restrictions in some places and we should map them, if we know it well, or not add or modify them if we’re unsure or unacquainted. but we don't map the legislation, isn't it ? or next step i

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Apr 4, 2019, 9:55 AM by m...@jeroenhoek.nl: > Then, landuse=school (~5000 in use) > Note that about 80% of landuse=school was added by automatic edits: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5439713/47250831-3d2e6b00-d429-11e8-9aef-1ba334ebecaa.png

Re: [Tagging] What's the default `access` value? | Re: amenity=place_of_worship | Re: Mapping of indigenous sacred / ceremonial sites

2019-04-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Apr 4, 2019, 10:52 AM by r...@technomancy.org: > So what's the default `access` for `amenity=place_of_worship`? > > I don't think there can be a default *for all types of PoW*. > > * `access=permissive` is the default for Catholic church facilities in > Ireland, but `access=private` for Catholic

Re: [Tagging] Comments on documenting winter speed limits tagging

2019-04-04 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 07:39, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Yes, but this tag is neither new nor basically unused (maybe "popular" > would be be better > than "used" in my sentence) > De facto? -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org htt

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Jeroen Hoek
On 04-04-19 11:25, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Apr 4, 2019, 9:55 AM by m...@jeroenhoek.nl: > > Then, landuse=school (~5000 in use) > > Note that about 80% of landuse=school was added by automatic edits: > https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5439713/47250831-3d2e6b00-d429-11e8-9aef-1ba

Re: [Tagging] What's the default `access` value? | Re: amenity=place_of_worship | Re: Mapping of indigenous sacred / ceremonial sites

2019-04-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/04/2019 09:52, Rory McCann wrote: So what's the default `access` for `amenity=place_of_worship`? I don't think there can be a default *for all types of PoW*. Spot on - and actually that applies to plenty of other things within OSM too (for example - highway=track).  Anyone consuming OSM

Re: [Tagging] Comments on documenting winter speed limits tagging

2019-04-04 Thread Jyri-Petteri Paloposki
On 3.4.2019 19.40, Tobias Knerr wrote: > Despite the feedback that maxspeed:conditional would be better suited > for this use case, this key has now been documented on the wiki: > https://wiki.osm.org/Key:maxspeed:seasonal:winter > > I find that rather disappointing because the key is a poor fit w

Re: [Tagging] Comments on documenting winter speed limits tagging

2019-04-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 4. Apr. 2019 um 08:39 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny < matkoni...@tutanota.com>: > Yes, but this tag is neither new nor basically unused (maybe "popular" > would be be better > than "used" in my sentence) > you are right, my bad, this is apparently a case of an organic tag. Cheers, Mart

Re: [Tagging] What's the default `access` value? | Re: amenity=place_of_worship | Re: Mapping of indigenous sacred / ceremonial sites

2019-04-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 4. Apr. 2019 um 10:53 Uhr schrieb Rory McCann : > I don't think there can be a default *for all types of PoW*. > ... > I think data consumers need to use their heads. ... If you're making a > site to show tourist-y places in > a city, don't include `amenity=place_of_worship` with > `access

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 4. Apr. 2019 um 09:57 Uhr schrieb Jeroen Hoek : > However, in many countries schools can share a common campus. To > facilitate mapping these, the landuse=school proposal was drafted: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse%3Dschool > > This allows the mapper to t

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 09:55:36AM +0200, Jeroen Hoek wrote: > # Background > > When tagging a school, as per the current documentation, ideally the > amenity=school tag is applied to the school grounds, implying its > landuse. This works fine for single schools that have their own > building, on

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Jeroen Hoek
On 04-04-19 13:51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > why not overlap the amenity=school (one for each school, including the > grounds)? This allows to show that it is a common campus, while > otherwise you only associate the buildings with the school and make no > statement about the campus, other than

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Apr 2019, at 15:41, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > Schools have forever been landuse=residential as schools belong to > residential areas. schools never have been residential landuse, although some people add them there, just like they add other things to residential l

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Apr 2019, at 15:50, Jeroen Hoek wrote: > > This doesn't solve the common case of the shared campus or location > having a shared name, as in the French example I've linked to for the shared name of several schools I would suggest the group relation. Just add the sc

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Jeroen Hoek
On 04-04-19 15:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > for the shared name of several schools I would suggest the group > relation. Just add the schools as members and add the shared name to > the relation. Wouldn't that leave only the collective schools' relation with a searchable name, rather than a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Jeroen Hoek
On 04-04-19 15:41, Florian Lohoff wrote: > Schools have forever been landuse=residential as schools belong to > residential areas. This is not always the case, especially in cases where schools share a common campus. > Introducing yet another special landuse is just more confusing and it > does

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi Jeroen, On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 04:11:19PM +0200, Jeroen Hoek wrote: > On 04-04-19 15:41, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > Schools have forever been landuse=residential as schools belong to > > residential areas. > > This is not always the case, especially in cases where schools share a > common ca

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Apr 2019, at 16:01, Jeroen Hoek wrote: > > Wouldn't that leave only the collective schools' relation with a > searchable name, rather than a named area rendered on maps that support it? on maps you have the overlapping areas of the schools. Cheers, Martin __

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone On 4. Apr 2019, at 16:11, Jeroen Hoek wrote: >> Introducing yet another special landuse is just more confusing and it >> does not fix a single issue. > > It fixes the issue documented by the original proposal, extended with > the issue I've described (higher education instit

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school?

2019-04-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4. Apr 2019, at 22:07, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > landuse is usually seen as a property about the use of land, this proposal > uses it as a fe feature to represent a named object of several schools. If I split the landuse in 2, will I get 2 campuses which happen to

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school- alternative landuse=educational

2019-04-04 Thread Warin
On 05/04/19 07:20, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 4. Apr 2019, at 22:07, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: landuse is usually seen as a property about the use of land, this proposal uses it as a fe feature to represent a named object of several schools. If I split the landuse in