Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-12 Thread Warin
On 12/11/18 18:31, Colin Smale wrote: On 2018-11-11 21:51, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Just for the sake of asking a theoretical question that I know would probably never appear in real life :-) Would / could you also use the multi-letter codes as you show eg NATO, WTO, SEATO? & a mixture of th

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

2018-11-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am So., 11. Nov. 2018 um 22:54 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > I have to say I far prefer the editors in things like WordPress and > Drupal. View source means HTML > source and the visual editors seem (to me) better designed. > I agree that in an attempt to simplify html editing by introducing a ma

Re: [Tagging] Estimated values for height

2018-11-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am So., 11. Nov. 2018 um 12:17 Uhr schrieb Sergio Manzi : > Hello everybody, > > I'm the one who, in the Italian mailing list, first brought out the issue > about how to tag estimated heights (*in our context it was about trees > height*). > > My first proposal has been to use a new sub-key in whi

Re: [Tagging] Estimated values for height

2018-11-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am So., 11. Nov. 2018 um 17:11 Uhr schrieb Andy Townsend : > No, putting a source on an object is not "bad practice". If the source > for all of the objects in a changeset is the same then of course it > makes sense to use a changeset tag for the source rather than repeating > the same object tag

Re: [Tagging] Estimated values for height

2018-11-12 Thread Sergio Manzi
Please, just forget about trees (/and the fact that they obviously grow.../): trees have only been the "/casus belli/", the case for which we asked ourselves how "Estimated values for height" (/the topic of this thread.../) should be tagged. The real question, I think, is if it is correct to ha

Re: [Tagging] Estimated values for height

2018-11-12 Thread Warin
On 12/11/18 21:01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Just add the height. +1. Some mappers are reluctant to change previous entries because they think the previous mapper might object or have better data. I sometimes include a comment about how rough my entry is, thinking that someone can improve

Re: [Tagging] Estimated values for height

2018-11-12 Thread Warin
On 12/11/18 21:23, Sergio Manzi wrote: Please, just forget about trees (/and the fact that they obviously grow.../): trees have only been the "/casus belli/", the case for which we asked ourselves how "Estimated values for height" (/the topic of this thread.../) should be tagged. The real q

Re: [Tagging] Estimated values for height

2018-11-12 Thread Sergio Manzi
... because, as you correctly point out, comments are just a human-to-human thing (/let's put AI aside for the moment.../), while a structured information for accuracy could open the way to an automated method to "/update this information only if the accuracy of this new measure is better than t

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

2018-11-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7. Nov 2018, at 02:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Maybe change the title a little bit: "office of an elected official"? maybe this goes too far? Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://

Re: [Tagging] Add some tag to identify disputed borders

2018-11-12 Thread Noémie Lehuby
Hi, Any thoughts about this ? Should we consider the dispusted=yes tag on boundary ways as a /de facto/ standard and uniformize a few borders ? Should we create a proposal about this tag ? The borders data do not fit the doc and the statement from the Foundation and are not really usable righ

Re: [Tagging] Add some tag to identify disputed borders

2018-11-12 Thread marc marc
it seems to me that there are 2 possible solutions - put the disputed area in the type=boundary boundary+administrative relationship of the 2 countries and put dispute=yes on the way(s) concerned. - put the disputed area in neither of the two relationships. this area 'll be a mp, and thus a relati

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-12 Thread Allan Mustard
Not contrived at all in these days of tight budgets. I see no reason the inverse would not work. I’ll add it. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2018, at 12:31 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > >> On 2018-11-11 21:51, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> Just for the sake of asking a theoretical question tha

Re: [Tagging] Add some tag to identify disputed borders

2018-11-12 Thread Simon Poole
I'm not a big fan of doing this. There are only a very small number of countries, maybe none, that don't have any sections of their borders that are disputed. While it can be argued that moving away from our de facto area of control model allows to reflect reality better, it also makes the borders

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-12 Thread Allan Mustard
Yes, the UK embassies act on behalf of nationals of the British Commonwealth if they have no representation in country.  I'd not tag that, either.  They already know it :-) On 11/12/2018 2:36 PM, Warin wrote: > On 12/11/18 18:31, Colin Smale wrote: >> >> On 2018-11-11 21:51, Graeme Fitzpatrick wro

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

2018-11-12 Thread Allan Mustard
Even for a government bureaucrat like me it seems a bit wordy. :-) On 11/12/2018 6:19 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote >> On 7. Nov 2018, at 02:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> Maybe change the title a little bit: "office of an elected official"? > maybe this goes too far? > > Cheers, Martin > >

Re: [Tagging] Estimated values for height

2018-11-12 Thread bkil
Actually, accuracy=* is used quite a few times by itself: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=accuracy It is common to combine tokens in such a way in the key grammar of OSM. When I map objects that may be worthy as a navigation aid, like a survey point or a milestone, I usually specify a

Re: [Tagging] Reversible Road tagging

2018-11-12 Thread Richard
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 07:59:41PM -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: > lanes=* should be the total number of lanes... if it's a one-lane road with > two way traffic, I'd go with... things change somewhat when using lanes:forward:conditional and lanes:backward:conditional - these are not likely to sum up

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-12 Thread Warin
On 13/11/18 01:07, Allan Mustard wrote: Not contrived at all in these days of tight budgets. I see no reason the inverse would not work. I’ll add it. I think there are too many things in the proposal. Keep it simple. Yes the 'extras' might sound nice but they add complexity and each one is a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-12 Thread Colin Smale
On 2018-11-12 22:00, Warin wrote: > On 13/11/18 01:07, Allan Mustard wrote: > >> Not contrived at all in these days of tight budgets. I see no reason the >> inverse would not work. I'll add it. > > I think there are too many things in the proposal. Keep it simple. Yes the > 'extras' might sou

Re: [Tagging] Add some tag to identify disputed borders

2018-11-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Nov 2018, at 15:34, Simon Poole wrote: > > There are only a very small number of countries, maybe none, that don't > have any sections of their borders that are disputed. While it can be > argued that moving away from our de facto area of control model allows > to re

Re: [Tagging] Add some tag to identify disputed borders

2018-11-12 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 9:23 PM Noémie Lehuby wrote: > Should we consider the dispusted=yes tag on boundary ways as a *de facto* > standard and uniformize a few borders ? Should we create a proposal about > this tag ? > > The borders data do not fit the doc and the statement from the Foundation >

Re: [Tagging] Add some tag to identify disputed borders

2018-11-12 Thread marc marc
On 12. Nov 2018, at 15:34, Simon Poole wrote: > a consistent set of border polygons > (which is what people want in the end). everybody agree with that, the question was : how ? i didn't understand very well what you propose to achieve this goal take one of the initial exemple. the border IS inc

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-12 Thread Allan Mustard
Warin, may I please remind you that in your message of 31 October you were the mapper who expressed great concern about loss of data? On 11/13/2018 2:37 AM, Colin Smale wrote: > > On 2018-11-12 22:00, Warin wrote: > >> On 13/11/18 01:07, Allan Mustard wrote: >>> Not contrived at all in these days

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-12 Thread Warin
What I am suggesting; Stage 1 - Vote on office=diplomatic as a replacement for amenity=embassy Once that is past Stage 2 - vote on diplomatic=embassy/consulate/? with embassy=embassy/high_commission/? consulate=consulate/consulate_general/? ?=?/? Stage 3 .. if you have further things. That way

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Population during mandatory evacuations

2018-11-12 Thread Greg Troxel
Minh Nguyen writes: > (Crossposted to the talk-us and tagging lists.) > > Due to the ongoing Camp Fire in Northern California [1], the place POI > for the town of Paradise got tagged with population=0 before the > change was reverted. Following some discussion about this changeset in > OSMUS Slac

Re: [Tagging] Add some tag to identify disputed borders

2018-11-12 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 10:58, marc marc wrote: > everybody agree with that, the question was : how ? Hopefully, the drawing works? Not sure if this will make any sort of sense, but here goes! [image: OSM dispute.jpg] Countries A & B share a common border, stretching from Country C to the Ocea