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> On 12. Nov 2018, at 15:34, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> wrote: > > There are only a very small number of countries, maybe none, that don't > have any sections of their borders that are disputed. While it can be > argued that moving away from our de facto area of control model allows > to reflect reality better, it also makes the borders essentially > unusable without making ~200 x "average number of border disputes" > decisions to get to a consistent set of border polygons (which is what > people want in the end). maybe that part could be simplified if we could find a way to tag who recognizes or supports which version, so you could render the world according to the swiss government (for example)? I am not sure though if all countries have opinions on border disputes far away from them. From a practical point of view, if we had one tag for each supporting country these hundreds tags would get in the way for finding the other tags, a semicolon separated list with country codes is risking of going beyond the 255 char limit, and would not be very nice to edit. I clearly subscribe to your reality argument, international recognition is an important aspect of borders, apart from the physical control. Most people don’t need a „consistent set of border polygons“, it wouldn’t hurt them to see 2 alternatives for (generally/often) relatively small patches of land. Probably most people do not care for the whole world, a few decisions for the places near them will usually be sufficient for rendering their area of interest according to their preferred view - assuming they do not want to see the disputes, which I am not even certain of. You can get easy to use, simplified country shapefiles from natural earth, if you want OSM, it is because you care for detail :) Getting a consistent set of country borders including all known disputed borders is something we should render possible, it can also reduce the suspicion we would be mostly transporting a western view of the world, and effectively lead to more neutrality. A consistent set _should_ have the disputes. Cheers, Martin _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging