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> Am 19.11.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Stephan Knauss :
>
> Wouldn't it be much more meaningful to assume a default of "PH off" and just
> specify situations in which this is not the default? Likely the majority of
> amenities with tagged opening hours are closed on public holiday
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> Am 19.11.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Stephan Knauss :
>
> Out of 445 banks in Bavaria with opening hours 417 would be open on a public
> holiday (which is certainly always wrong).
banks are a particular amenity with typically very limited opening hours
compared to other amenit
Hello Robin,
thanks for referring to the previous discussion. Seems I had missed that.
As a "global" default won't work due to the arguments mentioned, how about
making it easier for the data consumers?
We still face the problem that a lot of opening hours are incompletely
specified. So fo
In Belgium banks are closed on public holidays, even some special ones
like July 11 (only Flemish part).
Bakeries on the other side are typically open on Sundays and public
holidays. Even when the public holiday falls on their usual closing
day.
Butchers are closed on Sundays and PHs, but typicall
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 16:50:12 +0700
Stephan Knauss wrote:
> Hello Robin,
>
> thanks for referring to the previous discussion. Seems I had missed
> that.
>
> As a "global" default won't work due to the arguments mentioned, how
> about making it easier for the data consumers?
>
> We still face
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> Am 20.11.2015 um 12:46 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny :
>
> Note that complaints like this should be emitted only for objects in
> some countries (like Germany), not worldwide.
why? If it's a public holiday and no rule is specified, the resulting answer
always bears a fair amo
Hi all,
I've noticed that a few (940) traffic_calmings are mapped as
highway=traffic_calming , most of them also have the tag
traffic_calming=*, but ~ 10% did not.
The vast majority (> 212000) of the nodes tagged traffic_calming=* is not
also tagged highway=traffic_calming. I looked at the wiki
Hi:
What happens when a traffic calming is a crossing for pedestrians at the
same time? I have some examples in this avenue of my home town where I
live: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1080908514
I find it is more important to mark it as a highway=crossing than a
highway=traffic_calming
Chee
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 08:19:56AM -0700, GerdP wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> So I started to cleanup, found a few nodes which where highway=crossing
> instead of traffic_calming, found a few nodes not (yet) connected to roads
> and finally decided to do a few larger changes today.
http://www.mapillary.co
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Florian Lohoff wrote:
> http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/LeaK3riwsMuv7f0i3Jt3XA/photo
I would tag the crossing as a node and the "table" as part of the way,
not as a node.
but a combination of highway=crossing; traffic_calming=table on a node
could work as well.
Just to make sure:
I've not changed nodes tagged highway=crossing,
but I changed some that were tagged highway=traffic_calming
to highay=crossing. I see no problem to add a tag
like traffic_calming=island to the same node, but
I think that e.g. bumps are typically before the crossing,
so those sh
No. That change would not be okay.
AFAIK the correct tagging scenario is
highway=traffic_calming
traffic_calming=bump (or chicane, or other types as stated in the wiki
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming)
This is a hierarchical system of tagging that works well in other
situat
On 20/11/15 15:19, GerdP wrote:
Hi all,
I've noticed that a few (940) traffic_calmings are mapped as
highway=traffic_calming , most of them also have the tag
traffic_calming=*, but ~ 10% did not.
The vast majority (> 212000) of the nodes tagged traffic_calming=* is not
also tagged highway=traff
The traffic_calming nodes I've added are common in Thailand where they are
used to force traffic to go slow. These are most often bumps in the road,
an asphalt or concrete bump, that will knock you off your motorcycle if you
hit it fast enough. But they are definitely not crossings. I've seen a few
So you think that every node tagged traffic_calming=* should
additionally be tagged with highway=traffic_calming?
That would mean we have >99% traffic_calming nodes with
incorrect tagging.
Gerd
Von: Dave Swarthout
Gesendet: Freitag, 20. November 2015 17:33
I routinely use the combination of
highway=crossing
crossing=uncontrolled
traffic_calming=table or traffic_calming=hump
example:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1463764436
http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/tfK5PNthYcyeahBz_dXqeg/photo
For these combined features the synthax
highway=traffic_calmin
I don't propose to change this tagging style.
Maybe I was not clear about the intended improvement:
I found 940 nodes which were tagged with highway=traffic_calming.
Most of them were also tagged with e.g. traffic_calming=bump
or traffic_calming=table or one of the other well documented values.
On 20/11/15 16:47, Gerd Petermann wrote:
So you think that every node tagged traffic_calming=* should
additionally be tagged with highway=traffic_calming?
That would mean we have >99% traffic_calming nodes with
incorrect tagging.
I think you misunderstand OSM. Your assumption of incorrect
Am 20.11.2015 um 17:29 schrieb Marc Gemis:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Florian Lohoff wrote:
http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/LeaK3riwsMuv7f0i3Jt3XA/photo
I would tag the crossing as a node and the "table" as part of the way,
not as a node.
If it is really enforced to identify a traffic
Am 20.11.2015 um 18:24 schrieb Gerd Petermann:
I found 940 nodes which were tagged with highway=traffic_calming.
Most of them were also tagged with e.g. traffic_calming=bump
or traffic_calming=table or one of the other well documented values.
A few were not tagged traffic_calming=*.
I changed th
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On 20.11.2015 10:50, Stephan Knauss wrote:
> As a "global" default won't work due to the arguments mentioned, how about
making it easier for the data consumers?
>
> We still face the problem that a lot of opening hours are incompletely
specified. S
I am not sure what you mean.
We have > 1.600.000 nodes which are tagged highway=crossing.
We have ~213.000 nodes tagged as traffic_calming.
I don't know if a zebra crossing should be called traffic calming,
but it is typically tagged highway=crossing, and in rare cases
also with traffic_calm
A raised area several feet across with a marked crosswalk on top is not
uncommon in Silicon Valley and more of them seem to appearing in residential
areas. I suspect that it is one of the newer ways to address the combined issue
of traffic calming and pedestrian crossing.
On November 20, 20
On Fri, 2015-11-20 at 11:22 -0700, Tod Fitch wrote:
> A raised area several feet across with a marked crosswalk on top is
> not uncommon in Silicon Valley and more of them seem to appearing in
> residential areas. I suspect that it is one of the newer ways to
> address the combined issue of traffic
On 2015-11-20 16:33, Dave Swarthout wrote:
No. That change would not be okay.
AFAIK the correct tagging scenario is
highway=traffic_calming
traffic_calming=bump (or chicane, or other types as stated in the wiki
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming)
This is a hierarchical syst
"Where traffic_calming is not a pedestrian crossing then
highway=traffic_calming is the prefered way of tagging."
The wiki doesn't mention this and most mappers seem not
to know that, not even in the UK. The vast majority of
traffic calmings is NOT tagged highway=traffic_calming.
What am I getti
Georg Feddern-2 wrote
> If the highway=traffic_calming is obsolete in those cases -
> why isn't
>
>> A few nodes were tagged with crossing=*, in those cases I added the tag
>> highway=crossing (and kept the traffic_calming=* tag)
>
> highway=crossing obsolete in this cases?
I just wonder if you
Why is your display name different for what appears to be the exact same
email address? So bloody annoying
Don't you think you should have started this conversation *before*
making the edits?
Dave F.
On 20/11/2015 15:19, GerdP wrote:
Hi all,
I've noticed that a few (940) traffic_calmings
> On Nov 21, 2015, at 3:31 AM, Philip Barnes wrote:
>
> Most traffic calming features are not pedestrian crossings.
>
> Where traffic_calming is not a pedestrian crossing then
> highway=traffic_calming is the prefered way of tagging.
+1
If I read this discussion correctly,
We're stuck on two
On 2015-11-20 17:10, Rafael Avila Coya wrote :
> Hi:
>
> What happens when a traffic calming is a crossing for pedestrians at the
> same time? I have some examples in this avenue of my home town where I
> live: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1080908514
>
> I find it is more important to mark it
Sorry all. I'm on Thailand time and had to sleep.
The highway=traffic_calming key is found on the top level highway page
here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway. On that page a link
to the types of traffic_calming device appears:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming.
Dave F. wrote
> Why is your display name different for what appears to be the exact same
> email address? So bloody annoying
Yes, and I hope that I've now found the right way to change that.
I often use the GIS interface to write posts as it is much easier to use
then the interface provided by Mi
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