Hello Robin, thanks for referring to the previous discussion. Seems I had missed that.
As a "global" default won't work due to the arguments mentioned, how about making it easier for the data consumers? We still face the problem that a lot of opening hours are incompletely specified. So for example the opening hours js library could display a warning in case of a public holiday and missing explicit specification in the tags. Would give a heads up notice to be more cautious with the data. Is there already an osmose category existing to find incomplete opening hours? Stephan On November 20, 2015 12:35:42 AM GMT+07:00, Robin Schneider <y...@riseup.net> wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA512 > >On 19.11.2015 13:01, Stephan Knauss wrote: >> Hi, >> >> the wiki page describes that "PH off" is required in case something >is >> closed on a public holiday. >> >> This page confirms it: >> http://openingh.openstreetmap.de/evaluation_tool/?setLng=de a >facility >> tagged with "Mo-Fr 10:00-18:00" would be open on Christmas Friday. >> >> Wouldn't it be much more meaningful to assume a default of "PH off" >and >> just specify situations in which this is not the default? Likely the >> majority of amenities with tagged opening hours are closed on public >> holidays. >> >> Check of OSM data: Out of 445 banks in Bavaria with opening hours 417 >would >> be open on a public holiday (which is certainly always wrong). >> >> Having the need to add PH off to every single entry would make it >explicit, >> but is contrary to the typical common understanding of opening >hours. And >> we also don't add oneway=no to the highways to make it explicit. >> >> So I suggest to adopt a default understanding of "PH off" unless >tagged >> otherwise. >> >> Would it be worth opening a ticket here? >> https://github.com/ypid/opening_hours.js > > >Good evening Stephan > >You are not the first one with this idea. It has already be discoursed >and it >was rejected. Such a proposal would make sense when looking only at >Germany >but it does not work so well when applied worldwide … > >Refs: > >- - (Assuming you speak German): >https://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2015/04/wochenaufgabe-oeffnungszeiten/#comment-143413 >- - >https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours_default_PH_off > >- -- >Live long and prosper >Robin `ypid` Schneider >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWTghuAAoJEIb9mAu/GkD4gOMQAJzp2EqAzIBCBImX9iIA6ETK >8LjVblDnW5mQp5c9+eCZzEtaSPGgqr30MCgDWWukgNEH+y/aABMkwrP0Jc7SKzU8 >PXXo2zVQeBAjyS6bVyZFlpGjaXJUyg/A7L6mJWMRdnb6/rbCOXA36UAqSrO4viDf >2Rc4my8pP8PJNg/Loc/8UCfUtkoY3ggdjId9TpgqnfashGMFo7kXynhDS7OUhoUp >CWEoQ8rMXNVhWpP2YBKD4HpmXv2H20xHZyL1VPP5PAyf5u7J0BwIKLOpau7sHiqc >8HNqq2CgDXQtvXIYkSUFsZrAMMUlNwD7ewPnI8aV0/DmUAOyTzfiZ/U8UX91yrsy >jUbkHzvxvPsEkhcHfUH0gkUEcWrdFaGbcm2wokvL4oljJ7UOokj1IdnEoZLSVEZW >T9wV717LlmxNndAvOdtGEsq1Ei331ktApvkNzM/Ur/FTeWS4FhMWFIaJ4vmH9X4Q >fMosJtxP9rQTHrkA1H/wZvw0m6g8D9afEfyfaJ6K8MQgrUGrTu8V0wz3Osi324Ae >KJCtUJGoC3SQvofYJPPed/9+eDWTTJLoSmfl2bRR4kpoVCDc01HM7NJ0UQB5y7aZ >7K93gwhW969ja5Qn4FNa2eRxsKHyua+soh6QkIOaezlBnsJ/KBCuv03i4IirhzyQ >dgBd43+oEQa0S+4lQVkl >=Ys2L >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >_______________________________________________ >Tagging mailing list >Tagging@openstreetmap.org >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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