Re: [Tagging] Playground equipment

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 21.07.2015 um 03:17 schrieb John Willis : > > It is probably not practical to tag the stairs, ladders, platforms, holes, > and other access points that make up the center core of large playground > structures, why not? It is the way to go for me, if I am to add more d

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 20.07.2015 um 23:24 schrieb John Eldredge : > > You also have exceptions such as the Albert Memorial in London, England. can you explain this: is it a memorial or a monument in osm (for you)? cheers Martin ___ Tagging mail

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 20.07.2015 um 23:31 schrieb Daniel Koć : > > 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Military_Cemetery,_Warsaw (cemetery > with dedication, obelisk and taking a lot of space, and even mentioned as > "monument" in the body of article and is officially called "mausoleum"

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 20.07.2015 um 23:11 schrieb Daniel Koć : > > "A memorial object, especially large (one can go inside, walk on or through > it) walk on it doesn't sound like a reasonable criterium (you can walk on any pebble for instance). > *or high enough (at least a dozen or so

Re: [Tagging] Multiple values with semicolons (was: Voting - Blood donation 2)

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 20.07.2015 um 22:45 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann : > > That has nothing to do with semicolons. It's a general problem with tag > combinations. Say, if you use pub=yes + hotel=yes, you still cannot specify > different opening hours. Same thing with amenity=pub + tourism=gues

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 21.07.2015 9:23, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): walk on it doesn't sound like a reasonable criterium (you can walk on any pebble for instance). There may be some monuments that have no holes to enter, but one can go on them with staircases probably. I wouldn't require any particula

Re: [Tagging] Disputed area

2015-07-21 Thread Eric Sibert
One thing that perhaps might want to be captured in other disputes is what happens when one country actually occupies and controls the disputed territory. There, there's a de facto border and a claim. Yes, I started with the easy case where not country is occupying the disputed area and both

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 21.07.2015 um 11:20 schrieb Daniel Koć : > > "A memorial object, especially large (one can go inside, walk on or through > it) or high enough (at least a dozen or so meters), built to remember, show > respect to a person or group of people or to commemorate an event.

Re: [Tagging] Disputed area

2015-07-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Eric Sibert wrote: > Yes, I started with the easy case where not country is occupying the > disputed area and both countries agree on the limits of the disputed area. > There should be a similar case between USA and Canada for islands near > Vancouver. Curious i

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 21.07.2015 13:03, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): much better, still 12 meters are a lot, if you think about standing in front of an 8 meters high object, that's already pretty monumental. That's why I added "or so". We can also add a practical hint, which is BTW the real meaning and c

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread John Eldredge
I would classify it as a monument, given its size. However, its official name is the Albert Memorial. It honors Prince Albert, Queen Victoria's consort. - -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 21.07.2015 um 14:19 schrieb John Eldredge : > > I would classify it as a monument, given its size. me too. > However, its official name is the Albert Memorial. It honors Prince Albert, > Queen Victoria's consort. Yes, a lot of stuff we tag as historic=monument has

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 21.07.2015 um 14:18 schrieb Daniel Koć : > > object=memorial (not even historic, because it may be built nowadays - let's > get rid of those compulsive categories!) I don't read "historic" in a way that the object has to be old, but that it is an object that refers to

Re: [Tagging] Disputed area

2015-07-21 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
My idea is to replace the use of 'inner', 'outer' (and the deprecated 'exclave', and 'enclave') roles in a type=boundary relation with 'defacto' and 'dejure' (or 'claimed') roles. The 'inner' and 'outer' roles are very trivial to compute (assuming a relation is properly constructed) and are actuall

[Tagging] life ring or life preserver

2015-07-21 Thread Dave F.
Hi New life preservers have been placed in my city along the river: https://twitter.com/AvonFireRescue/status/623478918729854976 Two questions: 1. Life ring http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dlife_ring seems a little specific & out of date. The self inflating jacket appears to

Re: [Tagging] Disputed area

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 21.07.2015 um 16:12 schrieb Eugene Alvin Villar : > > My idea is to replace the use of 'inner', 'outer' (and the deprecated > 'exclave', and 'enclave') roles in a type=boundary relation with > 'defacto' and 'dejure' (or 'claimed') roles. these could make sense as tags o

Re: [Tagging] Disputed area

2015-07-21 Thread Arch Arch
I think it would be better to create separate relations for disputed territories instead of introducing new roles. Your approach would break many existing applications. There's already a proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/DisputedTerritories Am 21.07.2015 um 16:12

Re: [Tagging] Playground equipment

2015-07-21 Thread John Willis
Im referring to the base platforms that make up the "uninteresting" part of a large playground piece. The other things are usually attached to it. Maybe it has a ladder or steps on one side, but it is the mundane part - the structure. The slide, rope bridge, zip line, etc are all bolted on the s

Re: [Tagging] Playground equipment

2015-07-21 Thread John Willis
> On Jul 21, 2015, at 3:52 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > I would prefer to have that in the playground:theme=* tag, > thus playground=structure and > playground:theme=octopus_mountain|ship|castle|dungeon|etc If they were a one-off, yea, but they are a named playground item here (like climbing hi