Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/22/2015 06:12 AM, Blake Girardot wrote: > OSM is about mapping what is important to people AND on the ground. Important alone doesn't suffice. > and believe me, if the > only bridge for 50km is out that is important to me and others. Yes, of course. If there is no bridge left at all

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 22.05.2015 um 09:04 schrieb Frederik Ramm : > > Yes, of course. If there is no bridge left at all then we'd simply > delete - or refrain from mapping - the bridge (rather than create an > object saying there was a bridge but it's gone now). > > Incidentally this means that OSM is not sui

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-22 Thread Warin
On 22/05/2015 5:32 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 22.05.2015 um 09:04 schrieb Frederik Ramm : Yes, of course. If there is no bridge left at all then we'd simply delete - or refrain from mapping - the bridge (rather than create an object saying there was a bridge but it's gone now). Incid

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-05-22 12:14 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > Much quicker and cheaper to repair/replace sections that are damaged than > place a new road + bridges elsewhere. yes, also because typically there has been a reason why a certain spot has been chosen for the bridge (topography, river

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 May 2015 at 12:25, pmailkeey . wrote: > 'Pond' seems to fit the bill: No, it does not. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/taggi

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 May 2015 at 16:40, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Wiki suggests natural=water + water=reflecting_pool: Cascades, by their very nature, are not suitable for reflecting as the water is agitated. There may also be no horizontal surface to speak of. > Maybe water=cascade could be the right fit. Prob

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-22 Thread Richard Z.
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 09:52:06PM -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > Note that just because you can collect some data, does not make it a good > idea to put in OSM. Maintenance is harder than collection: and who's going > to go back three years after the HOT event and clean up? same is even worse wit

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-22 Thread Richard Z.
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 09:36:10PM +0200, Andreas Goss wrote: > As you linked to this on the HOT list a few things noticed... > > > What about the typhoon:, earthquake: or tsunami: tags? Replaced with > damage:event? > > What about e.g. damage:building? This could still be used even if you have

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 22.05.2015 um 12:28 schrieb Andy Mabbett : > > Cascades, by their very nature, are not suitable for reflecting as the > water is agitated. maybe this is a language issue, I would have thought they would reflect anyway but you wouldn't see a clear picture (I agree that reflection_pool i

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 May 2015 at 12:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > what are the other examples? We cannot propose tags if you don't say what you > want to tag ;-) "man-made, ornamental water features, which are not fountains" These might be cascades, rills, reflecting-pools, rain-chains, moats, etc. We mi

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 22.05.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Andy Mabbett : > > These might be cascades, rills, reflecting-pools, rain-chains, moats, etc. > > We might, for example, have: > > natural=water > water=cascde > > etc. - but not: > > water=fountain > > as we already have > > amenity=fountain > >

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-22 Thread Blake Girardot
These replies are all very helpful, thank you very much. On 5/22/2015 9:04 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Whether the bridge was broken by a hurricane or an earthquake or in a war, will often not be easy to discern on the ground. Therefore I view a tag that details the event which broke the bridge, a

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Richard Z.
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:00:30PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > > Am 22.05.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Andy Mabbett : > > > > These might be cascades, rills, reflecting-pools, rain-chains, moats, etc. > > > > We might, for example, have: > > > > natural=water > > water=cascde >

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
The water feature we are talking about here is an artificial waterfall, usually pump-driven. On May 22, 2015 9:19:44 AM "Richard Z." wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:00:30PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > > Am 22.05.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Andy Mabbett : > > > > These might be c

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Dave Swarthout
I am uncomfortable with "cascade" - in several languages it means "waterfall" so there is considerable potential for confusion. I agree. A cascade is a waterfall in American English. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Richard Z. wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:00:30PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoef

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Richard Z.
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 09:26:34AM -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote: > The water feature we are talking about here is an artificial waterfall, > usually pump-driven. in that case it might be better to either use normal waterfall tagging node with waterway=waterfall+ way waterway=weir, possibl

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 May 2015 at 15:29, Dave Swarthout wrote: > I am uncomfortable with "cascade" - in several languages it > means "waterfall" so there is considerable potential for > confusion. > > I agree. A cascade is a waterfall in American English. How, then would you describe: https://commons.wikim

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 May 2015 at 15:54, Andy Mabbett wrote: > How, then would you describe: Or these: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Site_of_Priory_Mill_-_geograph.org.uk_-_288573.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Luxury_apartments,_Dickens_Heath_Village,_Solihull_-_geograph.org.uk

[Tagging] shop=supplements => shop=dietary_supplements

2015-05-22 Thread Andreas Goss
Just found the proposal for shop=supplements. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/supplements On the talk page already a lot of people suggested using shop=nutrition_supplements instead. But looking at Wikipedia and google it seems like shop=dietary_supplements would be even

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Dave Swarthout
How about fountain_cascade or waterfall_artificial? It's a tricky proposition. On Friday, May 22, 2015, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 22 May 2015 at 15:54, Andy Mabbett > wrote: > > > How, then would you describe: > > Or these: > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Site_of_Priory_Mill_-_geo

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-22 Thread Warin
On 22/05/2015 8:54 PM, Richard Z. wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 09:52:06PM -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Note that just because you can collect some data, does not make it a good idea to put in OSM. Maintenance is harder than collection: and who's going to go back three years after the HOT event

[Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-22 Thread Dave Swarthout
I'm sitting in the Seattle airport trying to figure out how to tag areas that offer a power outlet and USB outlets for charging or powering computers and other devices. There are many of them here at SEA and they are important places for travelers to know about. I tagged a few of them with amenity=

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-22 Thread pmailkeey .
On 23 May 2015 at 00:19, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > I'm sitting in the Seattle airport trying to figure out how to tag areas > that offer a power outlet and USB outlets for charging or powering > computers and other devices. There are many of them here at SEA and they > are important places for tr

Re: [Tagging] shop=supplements => shop=dietary_supplements

2015-05-22 Thread pmailkeey .
On 22 May 2015 at 16:05, Andreas Goss wrote: > Just found the proposal for shop=supplements. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/supplements > > On the talk page already a lot of people suggested using > shop=nutrition_supplements instead. > > But looking at Wikipedia and goo

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

2015-05-22 Thread pmailkeey .
On 22 May 2015 at 07:35, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > > Am 21.05.2015 um 23:53 schrieb pmailkeey . : > > > > Tag the building with street address and add an ent/exit node to mark > the entrance. > > > have a look at these housenumbers, they're 5 and 7 for this side of the > building (one

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Duck tagging it's not. One could consider the horrors of tagging: *amenity=charging_stationvoltage=5socket:usb=4* >From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station But I think that's just as bad an idea as amenity=fuel;vehicle=no. ---

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

2015-05-22 Thread Ross
On 21/05/15 20:16, pmailkeey . wrote: On 21 May 2015 at 02:08, Ross > wrote: On 21/05/15 09:51, pmailkeey . wrote: On 20 May 2015 at 14:10, André Pirard mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, We know that addr:housenumber

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-22 Thread Warin
On 23/05/2015 9:56 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Duck tagging it's not. One could consider the horrors of tagging: *amenity=charging_station voltage=5 socket:usb=4* From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station But I think that's just as bad an idea as amenity=

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-22 Thread Dave Swarthout
Thanks for the great suggestions. I'm typing on an iPhone so will respond fully after I reach my final destination. amenity=charging_station with subtags for clarification seems to fill the bill. On Friday, May 22, 2015, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 23/05/2015 9:56 AM, Bryce Nesbi

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Thanks for the great suggestions. I'm typing on an iPhone so will respond > fully after I reach my final destination. > > amenity=charging_station with subtags for clarification seems to fill the > bill. > > I think that's a choice with hi