Hi,

On 05/22/2015 06:12 AM, Blake Girardot wrote:
> OSM is about mapping what is important to people

AND on the ground. Important alone doesn't suffice.

> and believe me, if the 
> only bridge for 50km is out that is important to me and others.

Yes, of course. If there is no bridge left at all then we'd simply
delete - or refrain from mapping - the bridge (rather than create an
object saying there was a bridge but it's gone now).

Incidentally this means that OSM is not suitable for use cases like
"let's plot all the damage done by disaster <X>" because if the damage
is obliteration then there will be nothing in OSM that we can plot.

I can see how drawing maps that detail the damage done by a certain
disaster event is an interesting use case but I don't see this within
the realm of OSM.

If a broken bridge remains, then we can map a broken bridge. If a civil
engineer looks at the bridge and is able to further specify the state
the bridge is in - for example to allow others to estimate how big the
repair effort might be - that's also an observable fact that could be
mapped.

Whether the bridge was broken by a hurricane or an earthquake or in a
war, will often not be easy to discern on the ground. Therefore I view a
tag that details the event which broke the bridge, and when that event
happened, as problematic.

This doesn't mean this is not important to people, for example if the
bridge was damaged by a disaster then relief funds might be allocated
for repair, whereas if the bridge just crumbled on its own accord then
no funds might be available.

But this already shows that if we deviate from our usual course of "map
what's on the ground", we risk getting involved in politics. "This
bridge was broken even before the quake!" "No it wasnt!" "Yes it was,
you know full well that lorries always had to take the detour" - Surely
it is not for OSM to (help) decide whether relief funds are used to
repair a certain bridge...

Bye
Frederik

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