Since so may people in Japan travel with small dogs, most parking areas and
many service areas have "pet areas" (I think they are called), where you can
let your dog out of the car and walk them or let them deficate. This is not an
enclosed space - there are no fences or facilities.
They are t
On 14.05.2015 23:17, André Pirard wrote:
> On 2015-05-13 16:49, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote :
>> Hi
>>
>> This can already be done, no problem. It is even described on the key page
>> [1].
>> Just search for "on appointment".
> Typical of that page, you discover "on appointment" by chance in an
>
2015-05-15 8:48 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett :
> How should we tag man=made, ornamental water features, which are not
> fountains? For example, a cascade?
>
fountains also require a natural=water for the effective water areas. See
here: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/705
2015-05-15 1:27 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
> to me a pub is a shop/building .. sells stuff and is a building.
to me a pub is a business, sells food and drinks and is typically in a
building (there might be also pubs in tents or on ships, etc.)
I feel its pointless to question the
The real question is:
At what scale is the "Amenity" an amenity of something?
This variable answer is the source of he confusion.
At the beginning, it was the amenity of the town. Amenity=school and
amenity=hospital is a great example.
But tagging complexity quickly grew in some objects (and
2015-05-15 1:11 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
> If it is a place that sells something then it should be a "shop".
>
> It does not matter what the product is .. ice cream for consumption now or
> to take home, coffee to consume now or to take home etc .. it is a shop.
> All shops are "am
2015-05-15 1:27 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
> On 14/05/2015 11:55 PM, pmailkeey . wrote:
>
>> amenity=pub is really just pub(=yes) etc.
>>
>
> That is a better example .. to me a pub is a shop/building .. sells stuff
> and is a building. As are restaurants, petrol stations etc.
>
No
+1
Jonathan
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2015-05-15 1:27 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
to me a pub is a shop/building .. sells stuff a
On Fri May 15 10:41:00 2015 GMT+0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2015-05-15 1:27 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
>
> > to me a pub is a shop/building .. sells stuff and is a building.
True, but a pub is much more than a business . It is as much a community centre
as a business, the c
+1
Unless it is an amenity of a larger place,
Like a Willy Wonka ice cream pool where you can just scoop ice cream out of
with your hand - that's an amenity.
A shop sells things. Like ice cream.
I already described a shop that sells ice cream takeaway only (and not soft
serve or scooped) - so
My concern is that OSM is/should be open to all. For it to succeed at that,
it needs to be easily understood by all - but even I would struggle to
define 'amenity' - it's not a familiar word to most people and it's a
problem osm-wide with nomenclature like 'node' for point and 'way' for line
- whic
On 15/05/2015 4:55 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
A lot of those end up as natural=water. I suppose man_made=yes could
be added.
The 'Pool of Reflection' Sydney is simply tagged
natural=water
name=Pool of Reflection
Way: 182625202
That is an ornamental memorial pool. Flat.
I've added a just cas
> Am 15.05.2015 um 12:17 schrieb p...@trigpoint.me.uk:
>
> It is way more than a shop, probably the best example of an amenity there is.
completely agree
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'Pond' seems to fit the bill: OED: "A small body of still water of
artificial formation, made either by excavating a hollow in the ground or
by embanking and damming up a watercourse in a natural hollow."
On 15 May 2015 at 12:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 15/05/2015 4:55 PM, Bryce
W dniu 15.05.2015 13:02, pmailkeey . napisał(a):
My concern is that OSM is/should be open to all. For it to succeed at
that, it needs to be easily understood by all - but even I would
+1 - I couldn't agree more!
10+ years of just adding more types of objects makes a lot of unneeded
cruft, bec
> Am 15.05.2015 um 14:52 schrieb Daniel Koć :
>
> Speaking of language/cultural differences: even I don't know how to tag
> "higher schools" in Poland - as universities or colleges maybe - because
> "further/continuing education" idea is simply not used here, but we have no
> common "univer
Hi everybody,
I was mapping cemeteries recently, and I stumbled over a couple of
confusing points. I would like to know your opinion.
1) There is landuse=cemetery and amenity-grave_yard. Could someone explain
the difference please? Is it that graveyard is always at a place of worship
territory? I
On Fri, 15 May 2015 15:38:53 +0200
Kotya Karapetyan wrote:
> 4) Ref seems to be a good tagging for the cemetery section number,
> but it doesn't show up on the map, unlike the "name" (e.g.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/345082198). Is ref still a
> preferred tag?
"it does not render" as sol
>
> > 4) Ref seems to be a good tagging for the cemetery section number,
> > but it doesn't show up on the map, unlike the "name" (e.g.
> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/345082198). Is ref still a
> > preferred tag?
>
> "it does not render" as sole argument is not a good argument. Mappers
> sho
pet, 15. svi 2015. 13:15 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> je napisao:
On 15/05/2015 4:55 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> A lot of those end up as natural=water. I suppose man_made=yes could
> be added.
>
The 'Pool of Reflection' Sydney is simply tagged
natural=water
name=Pool of Reflection
Way: 182625
Hi again,
Is there a tag for an administration building of a large campus/site?
Specifically, I would like to tag the administration location of a
cemetery. There is an abandoned proposal (
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Administration) but
its examples imply something very
> Am 15.05.2015 um 16:49 schrieb Kotya Karapetyan :
>
> Is there a tag for an administration building of a large campus/site?
> Specifically, I would like to tag the administration location of a cemetery.
maybe "office" fits for you?
cheers
Martin
W dniu 15.05.2015 15:11, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a):
either one of the available tags fit for your purpose or you will have
to invent a new tag, that's how OSM works. The situation would be
Sure, I know! =}
However when you have only few fixed categories, it's much harder to
invent a pro
Great, office=administrative will do. Thanks!
Cheers,
Kotya
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > Am 15.05.2015 um 16:49 schrieb Kotya Karapetyan :
> >
> > Is there a tag for an administration building of a large campus/site?
> Specifically, I would like to tag
pet, 15. svi 2015. 13:15 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> je napisao:
On 15/05/2015 4:55 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> A lot of those end up as natural=water. I suppose man_made=yes could
> be added.
>
The 'Pool of Reflection' Sydney is simply tagged
natural=water
name=Pool of Reflection
Way: 182625
Kotya Karapetyan wrote:
> 2) For large cemeteries, mapping of sections/sectors is essential for the
> map to be of any use. There is a proposal for this
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Cemetery_sector, but
> it seems to be abandoned. I would restart it, but I have a doubt:
2015-05-15 15:38 GMT+02:00 Kotya Karapetyan :
> Hi everybody,
>
> I was mapping cemeteries recently, and I stumbled over a couple of
> confusing points. I would like to know your opinion.
>
> 1) There is landuse=cemetery and amenity-grave_yard. Could someone explain
> the difference please? Is it
2015-05-15 17:23 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć :
> I don't think it's simply "if we don't have it, we don't need it, because
> if we need it, we would have it already". =} You probably underestimate the
> power of inertia and "good enough" system.
yes, I agree. What I meant was: to tag an university th
On 15 May 2015 at 14:38, Kotya Karapetyan wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I was mapping cemeteries recently, and I stumbled over a couple of
> confusing points. I would like to know your opinion.
>
> 1) There is landuse=cemetery and amenity-grave_yard. Could someone explain
> the difference please? Is
2015-05-15 17:23 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć :
> I see the area=* namespace as the most interesting and realistic
> candidate, because it's really basic word/object, and while it may look
> like a highly conflicting one (almost 700k uses already! -
> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/area), in realit
W dniu 15.05.2015 18:33, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a):
the area tag is sort of a special tag, it is used as a geometry flag
to say whether a closed way is linear or a polygon.
That is how we are used to think about it, but it's just a convention.
If you flip the point of view, you can say a
2015-05-15 19:22 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć :
> I think it was a clever move, sparing us additional typing and storage,
> but still in reality area is a basic concept with some exceptions, rather
> than special property of GIS objects.
yes, it is planned to have a real area datatype, sooner or later.
On Fri, 15 May 2015 17:32:39 +0100
"pmailkeey ." wrote:
> How about mapping a cemetery with connected smaller cemeteries ?
> That's what I've done to distinguish different areas and names.
Single cemetery should be mapped as one cemetery not, a bunch of
separate ones.
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On 15 May 2015 at 19:26, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> On Fri, 15 May 2015 17:32:39 +0100
> "pmailkeey ." wrote:
>
> > How about mapping a cemetery with connected smaller cemeteries ?
> > That's what I've done to distinguish different areas and names.
>
> Single cemetery should be mapped as one cem
I have seen some tight intersections, with buildings directly adjoining the
roadway at all four corners, where a "maxlength" tag would also be useful. A
passenger car or a delivery truck would be able to turn the corner, but a
tractor-trailer rig (heavy goods vehicle) or bus would get wedged in
That would depend on so many factors, including wheelbase, overhang,
width, driving skill, weight distribution on individual wheels, even
speed.. Google for "swept path analysis"
//colin
On 2015-05-15 23:13, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> I have seen some tight intersections, with buildings
I don't know whether this has been discussed or even mooted before...
Tagging for the renderer is natural. Mappers, especially newbies will be
disappointed their pet new feature they've just added to the db does not
appear on the map. This situation is no use to anyone but has been allowed
to cont
Hi,
On 05/16/2015 12:03 AM, pmailkeey . wrote:
> I don't know whether this has been discussed or even mooted before...
Often.
> Tagging for the renderer is natural. Mappers, especially newbies will be
> disappointed their pet new feature they've just added to the db does not
> appear on the map.
On 15 May 2015 at 22:30, Colin Smale wrote:
> That would depend on so many factors, including wheelbase, overhang,
> width, driving skill, weight distribution on individual wheels, even
> speed.. Google for "swept path analysis"
>
> //colin
>
>
> On 2015-05-15 23:13, John F. Eldredge wrote:
On 16 May 2015 at 00:40, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 05/16/2015 12:03 AM, pmailkeey . wrote:
> > I don't know whether this has been discussed or even mooted before...
>
> Often.
>
> > Tagging for the renderer is natural. Mappers, especially newbies will be
> > disappointed their pet new fea
On 2015-05-15 10:09, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote :
> On 14.05.2015 23:17, André Pirard wrote:
>> On 2015-05-13 16:49, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote :
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> This can already be done, no problem. It is even described on the key page
>>> [1].
>>> Just search for "on appointment".
>> Typical
Regardless of people's views on this, the reality is that one of the main
reasons people get involved with OSM is because they want to see the things
they tag show up on a map somewhere at some time. In my case I wanted to
see the roads and features in my areas of interest (Alaska, Thailand) show
u
On 16/05/2015 10:39 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
Regardless of people's views on this, the reality is that one of the
main reasons people get involved with OSM is because they want to see
the things they tag show up on a map somewhere at some time.
Tagging for the renderer isn't going to go away
On 2015-05-16 01:40, Frederik Ramm wrote :
> Hi,
>
> On 05/16/2015 12:03 AM, pmailkeey . wrote:
>> I don't know whether this has been discussed or even mooted before...
> Often.
>
>> Tagging for the renderer is natural. Mappers, especially newbies will be
>> disappointed their pet new feature they'
> On May 15, 2015, at 8:02 PM, pmailkeey . wrote:
>
> area IS landuse - it has to be (landuse=ocean ) so we get
> landuse=building even.
>
Uhhh. What? This is a clear about-face on the landuse tag then. Everywhere is
clearly not a landuse. Most of the earth is not altered nor desig
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