Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous translations of waterway=dam - should be moved to man_made=dam

2015-04-16 Thread Richard Z.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 07:16:22AM +0300, Dave Swarthout wrote: > I think redefining waterway=dam is gonna be a hard sell for most Americans. > But now thanks to this list I understand why some reservoirs I've worked > with in Thailand have had the name of the dam applied to the water behind > them

Re: [Tagging] Money transfer amenities

2015-04-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-04-15 18:51 GMT+02:00 Bryce Nesbitt : > "Western Union" is a branded money transfer service offered at many > other types of businesses -- including convenience stores, some banks, > pawn shops and in some countries post offices. > yes, but I have looked only at those instances which call

Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous translations of waterway=dam - should be moved to man_made=dam

2015-04-16 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Richard Z. wrote: > not all of the dams are man_made, beavers are busy builders. I want to be the first one tagging a beaver_made=dam :-) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous translations of waterway=dam - should be moved to man_made=dam

2015-04-16 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 16/04/2015, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Richard Z. wrote: >> not all of the dams are man_made, beavers are busy builders. > > I want to be the first one tagging a beaver_made=dam :-) Seems like you could be the first, but then you'd be introducing yet anoth

Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous translations of waterway=dam - should be moved to man_made=dam

2015-04-16 Thread Dave Swarthout
Some very original tagging here: natural=beaver_hut (???) Also. two of those dams are tagged with layer=2. Could that possibly be true? (LOL) I quite love this too: landuse=industrial population=1000 height=0.3 levels=40 roof:shape=dome material=paper building=wasp_hive Cheers, Dave On Thu, Apr

Re: [Tagging] Money transfer amenities

2015-04-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > not sure if I'd put the pawnshop in this category, because it opens a whole > field of similar stuff (e.g. second hand shops of different types). Around > here, also post offices offer services similar to banks (i.e. they do have a > ba

[Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'm opening discussion on how to best tag individual pitch numbers within a campsite. There are a variety of schemes in use from "tourism=caravan_site" on each node to "campsite=pitch,ref=XXX". This scheme seems to work fairly well: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37815651#map=18/36.49277/-121.14

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-04-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
>>> At most they will be access=permissive. Public implies an inalienable >>> right of access supported by law. >> >> Permissive implies something *far different to me*. It means that I can >> walk onto the property without prior arrangement, and chances are nobody >> will hassle me. > > +1 > a ca

[Tagging] internet_access usage in parks (and other open areas)

2015-04-16 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
We are having a discussion in talk-br about internet_access in parks and other open areas. From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:internet_access and from what I understand, it's a characteristic of the place/object (so it should not exist without a building, amenity, tourism, shop, leisure o

Re: [Tagging] internet_access usage in parks (and other open areas)

2015-04-16 Thread Janko Mihelić
I think internet_access could be used in both ways. It can be used vaguely, as an attribute of a restaurant, hotel, pub. Those places offer their service of bringing you internet access. If you don't have a strong enough signal, it just means the service is bad. But attributing internet access to

Re: [Tagging] internet_access usage in parks (and other open areas)

2015-04-16 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > But attributing internet access to a park seems strange. You can't complain > to someone that you have bad signal at your bench. I would rather map it as > a point if it's in the open. Nor you can complain if it's mapped as a node inside the

Re: [Tagging] internet_access usage in parks (and other open areas)

2015-04-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
As an attribute of a {marina, camp site, bar, hotel} it's clear who is responsible. As a standalone node it really needs an operator= and/or network= tag. Searching for such features is presently poor, but in theory a node can be found with an enclosure test. The wifi will shop up in the park, th

Re: [Tagging] Edit of wiki page amenity=drinking_water for man_made=water_tap

2015-04-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Here in Thailand there are many vending machines that sell purified, ion > exchanged I believe, water for drinking. Current practice seems to be to > tag them with amenity=drinking_water and leave it at that. What opinions do > you have on t

Re: [Tagging] Edit of wiki page amenity=drinking_water for man_made=water_tap

2015-04-16 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 17:33:38 -0700 Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Dave Swarthout > wrote: > > > Here in Thailand there are many vending machines that sell > > purified, ion exchanged I believe, water for drinking. Current > > practice seems to be to tag them with amenity

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-16 Thread David Bannon
That scheme seems to rely on house number model. Sure looks good. But does it, by implication, indicate there is a (eg) a house number 12 on the unnamed service road ? I'm not into mapping house numbers so don't know if thats important or not. David On Thu, 2015-04-16 at 10:51 -0700, Bryce

Re: [Tagging] internet_access usage in parks (and other open areas)

2015-04-16 Thread Janko Mihelić
pet, 17. tra 2015. 01:28 Nelson A. de Oliveira je napisao: There is also another problem: how do you find a park that offers wifi if it's mapped as a different object? Search for all parks that have an enclosed internet_access node, or easier, find all parks that are les than 30m from inter

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:50 PM, David Bannon wrote: > > That scheme seems to rely on house number model. Sure looks good. > > But does it, by implication, indicate there is a (eg) a house number 12 > on the unnamed service road ? I'm not into mapping house numbers so > don't know if thats impor