Re: [Tagging] Accepted or rejected?

On 14.03.2015 21:27, Clifford Snow wrote: > I would suggest adopting " Conditional Approval" approach. If the proposal > receives sufficient votes, it becomes "Conditionally Approved." Only after > it becomes widespread and adopted by JOSM and iD it becomes an "Approved" > tag. No. Editor develope

Re: [Tagging] Accepted or rejected?

On 14.03.2015 21:11, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Kotya Karapetyan > wrote: > > Proposal: let's change it to "8 unanimous approval votes or 10 or more > votes with at least 74 % approval ones"? > > > +1 on that. Anything without

Re: [Tagging] Current status of the key smoothness=*

2015-03-15 17:58 GMT+01:00 Kytömaa Lauri : > So far, nobody has proposed what I have come to think would be the most > exact and most usable bit of information a _mapper_ can provide: "Did you > get through with transport mode x?" Possible answers are: > - no > - just barely > - with extra effort/

Re: [Tagging] Current status of the key smoothness=*

This is something worth considering IMO. We can't seem to come to an agreement on which system to use, numeric or descriptive, and perhaps part of the problem is the difficulty in deciding exactly which grade to pick. Maybe having fewer choices would result in more agreement and make the tag easi

[Tagging] waterway=lock_gate - is it only for nodes?

According to wiki[1] waterway=lock_gate should be used only on nodes. Some are tagged on ways[2]. Why wiki considers node as the only valid element where this tag may be used? Is it because page is older than mapping rivers also as areas? Routing for boats? Some other reason? Is it a good idea to

Re: [Tagging] waterway=lock_gate - is it only for nodes?

2015-03-16 10:53 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > According to wiki[1] waterway=lock_gate should be used only on nodes. Some > are tagged on > ways[2]. Why wiki considers node as the only valid element where this tag > may be used? Is it > because page is older than mapping rivers also as areas? Ro

Re: [Tagging] waterway=lock_gate - is it only for nodes?

I'm embarrassed to admit I have tagged 82 of those features as ways here in Thailand. I guess I simply never thought to look at the Wiki because it seemed so obvious to me that most lock_gates cross the waterway. These features are not rendered on any OSM map I've seen so my mistakes never "came to

Re: [Tagging] Accepted or rejected?

On 16/03/2015 7:11 PM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: On 14.03.2015 21:27, Clifford Snow wrote: I would suggest adopting " Conditional Approval" approach. If the proposal receives sufficient votes, it becomes "Conditionally Approved." Only after it becomes widespread and adopted by JOSM and iD it bec

Re: [Tagging] waterway=lock_gate - is it only for nodes?

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:53:21AM +0100, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > According to wiki[1] waterway=lock_gate should be used only on nodes. Some > are tagged on > ways[2]. Why wiki considers node as the only valid element where this tag > may be used? Is it > because page is older than mapping river

Re: [Tagging] Accepted or rejected?

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Approval and rejection at the moment are only tagging group indicators.. > the best 'indicator' is that it is rendered. > And that is not a function of JOSM nor iD .. but the renderers .. there > are a few of them .. if they

Re: [Tagging] Accepted or rejected?

2015-03-16 11:55 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis : > I don't think "being rendered on all renderers" is a proper decision > criteria +1, the list of tags mostly not rendered but well established is long: opening_hours wikipedia start_date operator (population) (is actually taken into account when renderin

Re: [Tagging] waterway=lock_gate - is it only for nodes?

On 16/03/2015 10:37, Richard Z. wrote: I think it makes sense to tag them as ways, analogous to weirs and dams. +1 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] waterway=lock_gate - is it only for nodes?

> > > For boat navigation purposes this should be crosslinked: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenSeaMap/Gates > Isn't it the other way around? That is, the people who tagged seagate:category:gate=lock (24 objects) should be making sure to also tag waterway=lock_gate (15K objects), not vic

Re: [Tagging] waterway=lock_gate - is it only for nodes?

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > On the other hand, these features are actually a linear barrier with a > finite length that extend across a channel or canal. It makes sense to > allow tagging them as ways as well as nodes. > If you're a router following a way, having th

Re: [Tagging] waterway=lock_gate - is it only for nodes?

On 16/03/2015 16:35, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: If you're a router following a way, having the node marked makes the job easier. Is that not "tagging for an app"? A similar case is bridges. Here the bridge tag could be on a segment of the way over the bridge, the way under the bridge, a node on eit

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Taginfo challenge

I don't know about this specific case, but if a key /by definition/ can be used only in places where language X is spoken, then I think it would make sense to have them in language X I know at least one tag that works like that: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:py%C3%B6r%C3%A4_v%C3%A4ist%C3%

Re: [Tagging] Accepted or rejected?

On 16/03/2015 10:05 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-03-16 11:55 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis >: I don't think "being rendered on all renderers" is a proper decision criteria +1, the list of tags mostly not rendered but well established is long: opening_hour

[Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

I almost, but not quite, pressed delete on these: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/272142910/history https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/272142911/history They're private objects within a private gated electrical substation. Similar to toilets inside people's homes, it feels like these should not b

Re: [Tagging] Resubmitted proposal: mechanically removing all denotation=cluster and fixme=set_better_denotation tags worldwide

The mechanical edit has completed. If you have a favorite landmark tree in your area, consider checking the tagging. A number of those were tagged denotation=cluster and historic=yes, tags with essentially opposite meaning. Minor cleanup remains, along with oddities: http://www.openstreetmap.or

[Tagging] relation type for raceways

as i go forward mapping raceways in north america, one of the issues is modeling multi configuration courses such as Watkins Glen and Lime Rock. one solution is to use route relations, and add a new route type, route=raceway in this model, i would use forward and backward roles where necessary.

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

On 17/03/2015 10:46 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: "Please do not map private objects in private space. In general if the object could create a privacy concern, or is just not useful to a member of the public, please don't add it to the database. Note it is fully OK to map facilities within membersh

[Tagging] Tagging earthquake vulnerabilities of buildings: Developing world

Near Kathmandu, there's a series of tags relating to surveys of quake status of buildings. Would someone be interested in helping working out a proper tag scheme, and proposing it to whatever groups are doing this data collection? aware=abit aware=dont_know bldg_eq_Res=Dont Know bldg_eq_res=no bl

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

so the driveways are bad, but the powerlines are good? Aren’t the driveways in a substation part of the stubsation, just like like all the other detail that is recorded for the powerline system or fence for the substation? I am against rendering.. umm.. “distribution” lines, but if mapping the

Re: [Tagging] Smoothness possible values, straw poll.

OK, must assume there is no strong feelings that new values are needed for smoothness= We had 3 votes for no change, and only one each for a range of possible models. So, lets drop it. Still leaves us with no way to indicate that one piece of information an end user is likely to ask, "should I

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

"AKA military installations in certain countries" I would happily map military installation in Russia/North Korea/Iran/USA/whatever - it is not illegal for me. Maybe they can make laws making it illegal for their citizens to do this, but is it changing anything for me? 2015-03-17 6:57 GMT+01:00 jo

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:57 PM, johnw wrote: > so the driveways are bad, but the powerlines are good? > I was referring to the dumpster (the rolling trash can mapped twice within the substation). ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org htt

Re: [Tagging] Smoothness possible values, straw poll.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM, David Bannon wrote: > No stomach for a new subkey to highway= then ? Perhaps something like > road_usable=car;4x4;mtb > No. Same problem. Just because you think a car can't get down that road, does not mean I can't get down that road in a car. Tag what's there

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/272142911/history ps - that is a work yard next to a substation. And I have driven to work yards to repair computers, and I would sure like to know where the driveway is. The actual driveway in the substation is not mapped, though the gates to enter are

Re: [Tagging] Current status of the key smoothness=*

On Sun, 2015-03-15 at 16:58 +, Kytömaa Lauri wrote: > So far, nobody has proposed what I have come to think would be the most exact > and most usable bit of information a _mapper_ can provide: "Did you get > through with transport mode x?" Possible answers are: > - no > - just barely > - wit

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > "AKA military installations in certain countries" I would happily map > military installation in Russia/North Korea/Iran/USA/whatever - > it is not illegal for me. Maybe they can make laws making it illegal for >

Re: [Tagging] Current status of the key smoothness=*

Now a SURVEY would be fine, where multiple answers are allowed: Mode: motorbike Date: 2015-01-01 Rating: Easy User:fester Mode: car Date: 2015-02-01 Rating: Easy User:fsdfsfs Mode: motorbike Date: 2015-04-01 Rating: Impassable User:fester ___ Ta

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

Ahh. That makes more sense. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Javbw > On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:57 PM, johnw wrote: >> so the driveways are bad, but the powerlines are good? > > I was referring to the dumpster (the rolling trash can m

Re: [Tagging] Accepted or rejected?

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > inscription > > note (not rendered .. for use by mappers to make notes to other mappers ? > thus not required to be rendered?) Visible in a popup in geschichtskarten for historical items. But you were talking about all ren