[Tagging] RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings

2015-02-01 Thread Frank
Hi, Follow a thread on another forum (non OSM, but talking about side issues) I think the following things should be mapped to add information to the map in regards some, mainly commercial, camp grounds that have communal kitchens; stove top (no, not a bbq) microwave_oven fridge (or refriger

[Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread S Volk
Hi,I've been mapping on Africa in HOT tasks and around, I've seen some cisterns, also know that some humanitarian NGOs have made many cisterns on Africa (also water_wells). Question:How to tag a cistern (it seems to be not like what is shown for "landuse=reservoir"; rather a small "man made" r

Re: [Tagging] RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings

2015-02-01 Thread Dave Swarthout
There is much that needs to be done to bring OSM up to speed regarding camping facilities IMO. We have only a very few tags tourism=camp_site, tourism=caravan_site, and in a stretch, leisure=summer camp to describe the myriad of facilities out there. AFAIK, there is no way to distinguish a primiti

Re: [Tagging] RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 1/02/2015 7:47 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: There is much that needs to be done to bring OSM up to speed regarding camping facilities IMO. We have only a very few tags tourism=camp_site, tourism=caravan_site, and in a stretch, leisure=summer camp to describe the myriad of facilities out there.

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 31/01/2015 10:49 AM, S Volk wrote: Hi, I've been mapping on Africa in HOT tasks and around, I've seen some cisterns, also know that some humanitarian NGOs have made many cisterns on Africa (also water_wells). Question: How to tag a cistern (it seems to be not like what is shown for "lan

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Volker Schmidt
"cistern" in English implies underground or covered. You want something like man_made=water_tank (unfortunately often used as firw-water tank) or man_made=storage storage=water On 31 January 2015 at 00:49, S Volk wrote: > > Hi, > I've been mapping on Africa in HOT tasks and around, I've seen s

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Volker Schmidt
The Wikipedia defintion of "cistern" is much wider than the toilet cistern: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cistern On 1 February 2015 at 10:21, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 31/01/2015 10:49 AM, S Volk wrote: > > > Hi, > I've been mapping on Africa in HOT tasks and around, I've see

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
My error on the 'cistern'.. or rather limiting the application. I'm thinking of the 'ballcock' ... not a plumber. On 1/02/2015 8:33 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: The Wikipedia defintion of "cistern" is much wider than the toilet cistern: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cistern On 1 February 2015

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 1/02/2015 8:31 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: "cistern" in English implies underground or covered. You want something like man_made=water_tank (unfortunately often used as fish?-water tank) or man_made=storage storage=water On 31 January 2015 at 00:49, S Volk > wrote:

[Tagging] JOSM 7995 (January 2015) released

2015-02-01 Thread Martin Vonwald
Spreading the word. Thanks to the devs. -- Forwarded message -- From: Dirk Stöcker Date: 2015-02-01 13:40 GMT+01:00 Subject: [josm-dev] JOSM 7995 (January 2015) released To: josm-...@openstreetmap.org Hello, the new JOSM tested version for last month is out. Feel free to spread

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread John Willis
Speaking of cisterns, Does this notion of "cistern are reservoirs" cover fire cisterns? In most urban and suburban areas of Japan, there are underground hydrants, but there are a lot of fire cisterns as well out here in rural Japan. The fire trucks carry a snorkel. I assume this is an old syst

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
amenity =drinking_water sounds right for the drinkable water, I wouldn't use tank, rather also add a man_made=cistern for the kind of object cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/taggi

Re: [Tagging] JOSM 7995 (January 2015) released

2015-02-01 Thread François Lacombe
Big thank to the devs ! *François Lacombe* fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com www.infos-reseaux.com @InfosReseaux 2015-02-01 14:04 GMT+01:00 Martin Vonwald : > Spreading the word. Thanks to the devs. > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Dir

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 3:31 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > "cistern" in English implies underground or covered. > > You want something like > man_made=water_tank (unfortunately often used as firw-water tank) > > or > man_made=storage > storage=water > I realize there's a bit of a bikeshedding facto

Re: [Tagging] JOSM 7995 (January 2015) released

2015-02-01 Thread Michał Brzozowski
Oddly enough, there is no info on the JOSM start page. I thought this info gets updated automatically. I did clear the cache, btw. Michał On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Martin Vonwald wrote: > Spreading the word. Thanks to the devs. > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Dirk Stöck

Re: [Tagging] RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Feb 1, 2015 2:49 AM, "Dave Swarthout" wrote: > > There is much that needs to be done to bring OSM up to speed regarding camping facilities IMO. We have only a very few tags tourism=camp_site, tourism=caravan_site, and in a stretch, leisure=summer camp to describe the myriad of facilities out th

Re: [Tagging] JOSM 7995 (January 2015) released

2015-02-01 Thread AYTOUN RALPH
I have just started up JOSM and, while it did upload 7995 and ask me to update my plug-ins the last entry on the start page is still ... 2014-12-29 (7906) On 1 February 2015 at 15:45, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > Oddly enough, there is no info on the JOSM start page. I thought this > info gets upd

Re: [Tagging] JOSM 7995 (January 2015) released

2015-02-01 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-02-01 16:45, Michał Brzozowski wrote : > Oddly enough, there is no info on the JOSM start page. I thought this > info gets updated automatically. > I did clear the cache, btw. It's a plain Web page https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/StartupPage and you should try to find why you don't see i

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Voting system- time for reform?

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > +1 "Nobody votes because it's a borderline pointless endeavor." > > I joined this group to effect changes in tagging things of interest to me. > But the discussions inevitably go round and round with nary a thing getting > resolved. If some

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Voting system- time for reform?

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > And it seems for the most part, the tags with the most staying power seem >> to be ones that were natural fits, and *then* were documented *how >> they're actually used* in the wiki retroactively. >> > > A mostly +1 on that. > > The *proble

Re: [Tagging] Electronic or 'e' cigarettes?

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Dave F. wrote: > Hi > > A shop that solely sells electronic cigarettes has been added locally. I > guess this type of product will be on the increase so I think it's best to > clarify unified tag, if there's ever been such a thing in OSM :-) Checking > Tag-info it

Re: [Tagging] Motorroad does not apply to all lanes

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:36 PM, 715371 wrote: > Hi, > > I have a very, very special case here: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/318383959 > > There is a road with four lanes, but not all of them seem to be > motorroad. There is a sign which suggests that. I do not like to have a > separate

Re: [Tagging] Motorroad does not apply to all lanes

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:06 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > *I looked carefully at the situation of that road bridge in Bremen, and to > me it looks clear that the stretch on the bridge cannot legally be a > motorroad. When you enter from the west on the on-ramp I bet you do not > find any sign tell

Re: [Tagging] Electronic or 'e' cigarettes?

2015-02-01 Thread Tac Tacelosky
Another legitimate terms for these shops is a "vape shop", and the practice of using any sort of electronic cigarette is now referred to as "vaping". This is a better term than "smoking", as the product emits vapors, not smoke. We are enthusiastic about seeing this term standardized, as many juris

[Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread David Bannon
Subject Was - RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings On Sun, 2015-02-01 at 09:47 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Another one: caravan sites. There's not any way to cleanly > distinguish one at a state park that, save for the campground host, > doesn't allow long term stays, to ones that all

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Tod Fitch
On Feb 1, 2015, at 2:50 PM, David Bannon wrote: > > Subject Was - RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings > > On Sun, 2015-02-01 at 09:47 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> Another one: caravan sites. There's not any way to cleanly >> distinguish one at a state park that, save for the campg

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Dave Swarthout
The http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site is quite a comprehensive proposal. One small thing I noticed in that one is that waterway=water_point should be changed to amenity=water_point, to be consistent with current OSM usage. I guess the only issue I have with

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Tod Fitch
On Feb 1, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > The > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site > is quite a comprehensive proposal. One small thing I noticed in that one is > that waterway=water_point should be changed to amenity=water_point, to be > co

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread David Bannon
On Sun, 2015-02-01 at 15:22 -0800, Tod Fitch wrote: >. > I would like to have some of the items on Extend_camp_site page brought onto > the main camp_site page. Specifically the site/pitch specific tags at > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site#Tagging_of_indi

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 2/02/2015 10:22 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: On Feb 1, 2015, at 2:50 PM, David Bannon wrote: Subject Was - RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings On Sun, 2015-02-01 at 09:47 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: Another one: caravan sites. There's not any way to cleanly distinguish one at a state park

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 2/02/2015 11:43 AM, David Bannon wrote: On Sun, 2015-02-01 at 15:22 -0800, Tod Fitch wrote: . I would like to have some of the items on Extend_camp_site page brought onto the main camp_site page. Specifically the site/pitch specific tags at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_fe

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread David Bannon
On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 12:24 +1100, Warin wrote: > I've edited the wiki page on camp sites > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_site to include > links to the tags for fee, shower, laundry, firepit and water tap. OK, if thats how its done, I have added toilets. But seems

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 2/02/2015 2:33 PM, David Bannon wrote: On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 12:24 +1100, Warin wrote: I've edited the wiki page on camp sites https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_site to include links to the tags for fee, shower, laundry, firepit and water tap. OK, if thats how its done,

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 2/02/2015 2:33 PM, David Bannon wrote: On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 12:24 +1100, Warin wrote: I've edited the wiki page on camp sites https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_site to include links to the tags for fee, shower, laundry, firepit and water tap. OK, if thats how its done,

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Tod Fitch
Sorry for the quote all, but the email app on this cell phone doesn't make it easy to edit quoted text. Regarding detail mapping of individual sites/pitches, the reason I mapped the camp sites in the campgrounds on a local mountain was for a Forest Service volunteer group. The local medical fir