Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2014-08-02 at 21:29 -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On Sun, 2014-08-03 at 01:45 +0200, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > > Sometimes it's hard for me to tell whether a food venue should be > > classified as a restaurant or a fast food. > > From the description in the Wiki, the distinguishing featur

Re: [Tagging] Multistory medical office building

2014-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Il giorno 02/ago/2014, alle ore 22:00, "John F. Eldredge" > ha scritto: > > To clarify, if the business entity has ah single name, or if the building has > a single name? you should have distinct osm objects for the building and its occupants. Buildings typically are mapped as ways, get

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
If you ask me, all fast foods are restaurants, restaurant is just a broader term. There's no way we can find a clear line that distinct fast food with slow food restaurants. What ever rule you find, there will be some example of a restaurant that fits both descriptions. There is probably a restaur

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Richard Welty
the common rule of thumb is counter service vs. table service. even so, there are occasional grey areas (e.g., at Hardees you order at the counter but they deliver to your table, still fast food in my book.) and it produces slightly quirky results, for example the most excellent deli Gershon's in

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
"On 3 August 2014 14:19, Philip Barnes wrote: > I would tend to go for fast_food for dominos, they are primarily take > aways but may offer somewhere to sit but that does not make it a > restaurant. I would go for restaurant for most Pizza Huts. That appears to be a value judgement, and not some

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Il giorno 03/ago/2014, alle ore 17:15, Andy Mabbett > ha scritto: > > My dictionary defines a restaurant as "A place where people pay to sit > and eat meals that are cooked and served on the premises." All of > that can be done at a McDonalds. that definition would fit on any fast_food wi

[Tagging] Map day spas and spa resorts?

2014-08-03 Thread Johan Jönsson
I have written a proposal to map day spas and spa resorts, places you go to get relaxing treatments over the day or weekend. Is it a good move to map these features separately? If it is, then we could discuss the value of the tag, for the moment I just put down tourism=spa_resort. http://wiki.op

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 August 2014 15:43, Richard Welty wrote: > the common rule of thumb is counter service vs. table service Citation? Anecdotally, my first (Saturday) job was behind the counter of a counter-service restaurant that served game pie, smoked salmon, and the like, to discerning guests, in a high-en

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 August 2014 17:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Il giorno 03/ago/2014, alle ore 17:15, Andy Mabbett >> ha scritto: >> >> My dictionary defines a restaurant as "A place where people pay to sit >> and eat meals that are cooked and served on the premises." All of >> that can be done at a McD

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Tod Fitch
On Aug 3, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > Your comment suggests that "fast food" and "restaurant" are mutually > exclusive; they are not. > > Google finds "about 5,110,000 results" for "fast food restaurant", > with quotes; the first of which is the Wikipedia article: > >https:/

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 8/3/14 12:52 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 3 August 2014 15:43, Richard Welty wrote: >> the common rule of thumb is counter service vs. table service > Citation? it's been discussed extensively in the past and that was where the discussion settled. sorry no direct citation other than the mailing

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 8/3/14 4:19 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > On Aug 3, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> Your comment suggests that "fast food" and "restaurant" are mutually >> exclusive; they are not. >> >> Google finds "about 5,110,000 results" for "fast food restaurant", >> with quotes; the first of which is

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Il giorno 03/ago/2014, alle ore 21:34, Andy Mabbett > ha scritto: > > Your comment suggests that "fast food" and "restaurant" are mutually > exclusive; they are not. They are in openstreetmap ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org htt

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Il giorno 03/ago/2014, alle ore 21:34, Andy Mabbett > ha scritto: > > We should probably tag something like: > >amenity=restaurant >restaurant_type=fast_food >cuisine=pizza There are also lots of amenity=fast food that aren't restaurants by the WP definition. Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 03/ago/2014, alle ore 22:19, Tod Fitch ha scritto: >> amenity=restaurant >> restaurant_type=fast_food >> cuisine=pizza > +1 on this, though I might go for restaurant:type=fast_food rather than > restaurant_type=fast_food. The current definition in our wiki is: amenity=restaur

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sun, 2014-08-03 at 10:43 -0400, Richard Welty wrote: > the common rule of thumb is counter service vs. table service. even > so, there are occasional grey areas (e.g., at Hardees you order at > the counter but they deliver to your table, still fast food in my > book.) Whataburger is like this a

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sun, 2014-08-03 at 13:19 -0700, Tod Fitch wrote: > Thinking about this there seems to be several items that distinguish a > fast food restaurant from other restaurants in my mind: > 1. Does it have a drive-through window? Yes implies fast food. > 1. Are the plates and cutlery are disposable? Yes

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Colin Smale
On 2014-08-04 05:52, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Sun, 2014-08-03 at 13:19 -0700, Tod Fitch wrote: Thinking about this there seems to be several items that distinguish a fast food restaurant from other restaurants in my mind: 1. Does it have a drive-through window? Yes implies fast food. 1. Are t