Re: [Tagging] Tagging of "local" produce

2013-07-03 Thread Georg Feddern
Am 03.07.2013 05:43, schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: Some farm stands actually sell in-season produce direct off the adjacent farm. Others, which look the same from the road, sell imported goods only. A third type offers the goods from various local farms. How could I tag the difference? May be some

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - reference_point

2013-07-03 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 03/07/2013 05:46, Felix Delattre a écrit : Dear community, please vote for this feature proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/reference_point This is needed to get proper route-planning working in all Central American countries. Thank you for all the feedback given

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of "local" produce

2013-07-03 Thread Philip Barnes
I am not sure shop is right in this case, a farm shop is usually a more permanent building, these are more stalls or even the word you used originally, stand. There are many places like this on the UK, mainly selling eggs from smallholdings, but selling seasonal produce too. Most have an honest

Re: [Tagging] Observations on use of the diet: tag

2013-07-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
On 03/lug/2013, at 05:14, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > The > real votes happen when people choose to use one set of tags vs > another. In other words, I will follow taginfo before I will follow > the wiki. problem is that taginfo doesn't tell you at all what a tag is used for. cheers, Martin _

Re: [Tagging] Observations on use of the diet: tag

2013-07-03 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:14 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > My experience with mapping has been that after talking on the tagging > list, and being voted down, when I just went ahead and used my tags, > they were adopted by the community, on more than one occassion. Yeah, you can just ignore the f

[Tagging] The value of the list (was Observations of the use of the diet: tag)

2013-07-03 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Pieren wrote: > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:14 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > >> My experience with mapping has been that after talking on the tagging >> list, and being voted down, when I just went ahead and used my tags, >> they were adopted by the community, on more

Re: [Tagging] The value of the list (was Observations of the use of the diet: tag)

2013-07-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/7/3 Serge Wroclawski > > OSM data is a key/value store. What people decide to put in those > key/value pairs is up to them. > yes, up to the point that they are using duplicate values for well established keys. As we can only put one value for a key, the well established one should be used

Re: [Tagging] The value of the list (was Observations of the use of the diet: tag)

2013-07-03 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > 1. This list is a small subset of OSMers. It doesn't represent many of > the supermappers, and it doesn't include editor authors or renderer > people either. True. But you forget one important point : most of the contributors simply don't

Re: [Tagging] Observations on use of the diet: tag

2013-07-03 Thread fly
Am 03.07.2013 05:14, schrieb Serge Wroclawski: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:34 PM, fly wrote: > >> I have no problem in reverting my changes but please give me one reason >> why you can not live with diet:gluten_free=*. I do not want to revert my >> changeset now only to have a bot redo it in a w

Re: [Tagging] RFC: toilets=yes, toilets:disposal, toilets:position and incoporating toilets:wheelchair

2013-07-03 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 03.07.2013 03:10, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > Discussion seems to have died down. Any last comments on > toilets:disposal and toilets:position before I open it up for vote? "byop" is not self explanatory. Wouldn't "paper_available" or something be more easily understood? You also list male/female/

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - image=http://example.com/image_license_page

2013-07-03 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 02.07.2013 19:17, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Tobias Knerr > wrote: > > * I feel that it should be stated that *only* images under a free > license should be linked, i.e. images that offer the same freedoms as > OpenStreetMap

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=pasture

2013-07-03 Thread Volker Paul
This proposal intends to resolve the ambiguous use of landuse=meadow. Currently, landuse=meadow is for grassland used for mowing or grazing... ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - reference_point

2013-07-03 Thread Felix Delattre
On 07/03/2013 01:26 AM, Vincent Pottier wrote: > Le 03/07/2013 05:46, Felix Delattre a écrit : >> Dear community, >> >> please vote for this feature proposal: >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/reference_point >> >> This is needed to get proper route-planning working in all Ce

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - reference_point

2013-07-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Vincent Pottier wrote: > I would have tagged it with a "place" key, first as isolated_dwelling, and > latter as location, and in fact "place=reference_point" would fit... Could it simultaneously be a place=reference_point and place=hamlet? Would we be overloadi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of "local" produce

2013-07-03 Thread Murry McEntire
I am watching with interest to see whether a good set of tags for both these stands and bakery can be created. Bakery has had commercial_outlet vs local_outlet vs. produced_on_site proposed or an origin tag proposed (so far) One problem I see in tagging farm stands (also a problem for farmer's mar

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of "local" produce

2013-07-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > There are many places like this on the UK... > Honesty box is a good tag idea: that's a definite category. These farm stands or farm shops range from a box of eggs tucked under a fence, to air conditioned buildings indistinguishable from a

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=pasture

2013-07-03 Thread Volker Paul
Sorry, forgot to add the discussion link. I made this proposal because currently, the tag landuse=meadow is for grassland used for mowing or grazing. I often find that a meadow is really for grazing, i.e. a pasture, but I could not provide this information with the currently official tags. Shou

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=pasture

2013-07-03 Thread yvecai
To refine mowing & grazing, it would be better to separate the two. Whatever tagging form it take, something like mow=yes/no , graze=yes/no Yves On 07/03/2013 07:24 PM, Volker Paul wrote: Sorry, forgot to add the discussion link. I made this proposal because currently, the tag landuse=meadow i

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - image=http://example.com/image_license_page

2013-07-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: > But that intelligence may not involve an "index page" at all for some > image repositories, as each site works differently. For example, the > historical map supposedly also recognizes declarations in robots.txt. Or > there may be a repository

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=pasture

2013-07-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Volker Paul wrote: > Sorry, forgot to add the discussion link > I made this proposal because > currently, the tag landuse=meadow is for grassland used for mowing or > grazing. > I often find that a meadow is really for grazing, i.e. a pasture, This is tough. On

Re: [Tagging] Observations on use of the diet: tag

2013-07-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I tend to use taginfo to see which tag is "more popular", and generally follow it. If taginfo counts were built into editors it could help swing the needle more quickly in a particular direction (more popular tags get more popular). The hope though is that we can *design* tags properly so they are

Re: [Tagging] RFC: toilets=yes, toilets:disposal, toilets:position and incoporating toilets:wheelchair

2013-07-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: > "byop" is not self explanatory. Wouldn't "paper_available" or something > be more easily understood? > Like many tags that would benefit from a set of local translations. "Bring Your Own" is rather English centric. > You also list male/fe

Re: [Tagging] Open of discussion on "operational_status" (part of life cycle with disused/abandoned/demolished)

2013-07-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Relevant to this discussion, I just noticed in the wild: http://www.tappenbeck.net/osm/maps/deu/index.php?id=1029 Which has: aed:note im Schrank hinter dem Empfangstresen lastcheck 2012-10-02 medical aed http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1944153202 See also http://www.aedlocator.org/ __

Re: [Tagging] RFC: toilets=yes, toilets:disposal, toilets:position and incoporating toilets:wheelchair

2013-07-03 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 03.07.2013 20:12, schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: > >> "byop" is not self explanatory. Wouldn't "paper_available" or something >> be more easily understood? >> > > Like many tags that would benefit from a set of local translations. "Bring > Your O

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=pasture

2013-07-03 Thread Dudley Ibbett
Hi Are you sure it is a meadow and not "unimproved pasture"? We have a field locally that has a variety of grass types, flowers etc. Horses generally graze in it but sometimes there are cows but only for a few weeks in the year. It would seem to fit into the definition of a meadow used by so

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=pasture

2013-07-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Dudley Ibbett wrote: > Are you sure it is a meadow and not "unimproved pasture"? We have a field > locally that has a variety of grass types, flowers etc. Horses generally > graze in it but sometimes there are cows but only for a few weeks in the > year. It would

Re: [Tagging] RFC: toilets=yes, toilets:disposal, toilets:position and incoporating toilets:wheelchair

2013-07-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Peter Wendorff wrote: > > Like many tags that would benefit from a set of local translations. > "Bring > > Your Own" is rather English centric. > But "bring_your_own" can be translated easily, while byop may be an > abbreviation or not - who knows? ;) Can anyon

Re: [Tagging] RFC: toilets=yes, toilets:disposal, toilets:position and incoporating toilets:wheelchair

2013-07-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
You could always spell it out as bring_your_own_paper. Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Tobias Knerr > wrote: > > > "byop" is not self explanatory. Wouldn't "paper_available" or > something > > be more easily understood? > > > > Like many tags that would benefit from a se