On 07/03/2013 01:26 AM, Vincent Pottier wrote: > Le 03/07/2013 05:46, Felix Delattre a écrit : >> Dear community, >> >> please vote for this feature proposal: >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/reference_point >> >> This is needed to get proper route-planning working in all Central >> American countries. >> >> Thank you for all the feedback given and special thanks to Brycenesbitt >> [1] for reviewing the English language and cleaning up the proposal to >> provide only concrete, understandable and necessary information. >> >> If you wish you can have a look into prior communication logs: >> Initial conversation: >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2012-March/009613.html >> Request for comments: >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2013-June/013791.html >> >> Cheers, >> Felix >> > Sorry, I add not followed the discussion in the past. > > In my point of view, before creating a new key, we must see if no > available key is suitable. > It is easier to develop the use of existing, and well established, > keys, by adding a new value, than creating a new key for just one > specific use. > Each time we create a new key, we must adapt the tools to take it in > account especially osm2psql must be adapted to create one column more > the the tables. > Creating a new key is heavier than creating a new value. > > And there is an existing key that seems to be suitable, with a new > value : place=reference_point > The "place" key is already taken in account by a lot of tools, it is > already widely used. > > And the object to be tagged as place=reference_point could be a > church, a gas station in a cross, a particular house, a tree... > > I know several places in France where this kind of "natural" or > descriptive routing would apply, e.g. : > "Prendre la route après la pharmacie puis le chemin à droite à la > Maison Verte" (take the road after the pharmacy and then the path at > right hand at the Green House" in a village where I lived in Provence > The house was no more green for long, but white. And there is now no > more house but ruins. But we still say "La Maison Verte". > I would have tagged it with a "place" key, first as isolated_dwelling, > and latter as location, and in fact "place=reference_point" would fit... > -- > FrViPofm
I understand your point. And I agree that it could live eventually inside place=reference_point but I am not sure if this is a good solution: Of course using an existing tag is far better than defining a new one., but reference points are really something very abstract and on a micro level. The "place=*" tag seems to have a more descriptive propose for bigger areas (as far as I can see on the wiki page). Further I'm not sure if place=* should be used to mark reference points that have no physical evidence (anymore). And using the more general place=* tag we could be driven in some situations that would make sense to use two place=* tags on the same object. Thank you! Felix _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
