Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread John Sturdy
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:22 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > Looking at the old proposal page for > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:pitlatrine > > I see a an alternative of: > toilets:type=[flush,pit,chemical,bucket] > > Thus we might have: > > *amenity=toilets* > *toilets:type=pit* > *drinking

Re: [Tagging] Last call for comments on Proposed features/childcare2.0

2013-06-20 Thread Philip Barnes
Some also provide school holiday care for school age children. How about holiday_club = yes/no max_age= Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 20/06/2013 5:23 def onion wrote: Hi Andreas, thank you for your comment.The cenario that you describe can be modelled with the tags i prop

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
On 20/giu/2013, at 07:22, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > I see a an alternative of: > toilets:type=[flush,pit,chemical,bucket] > > Thus we might have: > > amenity=toilets > toilets:type=pit > drinking_water=yes > fee=no you can have pits with flush or without so this modification doesn't work. Wh

Re: [Tagging] Last call for comments on Proposed features/childcare2.0

2013-06-20 Thread John Sturdy
I think we should be able to make the age range explicit, via an "age=" tag, e.g. "age=1-4" rather than only making it implicit through terms such as "kindergarten". Otherwise, looks good to me. __John ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-20 Thread fly
On 18.06.2013 05:27, Paul Johnson wrote: > I'm thinking it might be time to revive this proposal: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site Interesting proposal > In which, the space my 5th Wheel has been for the last half a year would > be part of a site relation.

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread Brian Wolford
> > you can have pits with flush or without so this modification doesn't work. > What are the benefits of the changes you propose? > > I think it is referring to the "front-end" or "user-experience" of the toilet. In which case it wouldn't be both flush or pit, flush being water carries it away, an

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-20 Thread Erik Johansson
I think this discussion seems a lot like the one on "apartment numbers" we had a while back. I couldn't find it though. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:17 PM, fly wrote: > On 18.06.2013 05:27, Paul Johnson wrote: >> I'm thinking it might be time to revive this proposal: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.o

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/20 Brian Wolford > you can have pits with flush or without so this modification doesn't work. >> What are the benefits of the changes you propose? >> >> I think it is referring to the "front-end" or "user-experience" of the > toilet. In which case it wouldn't be both flush or pit, flush be

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/20 Erik Johansson > I think this discussion seems a lot like the one on "apartment > numbers" we had a while back. I couldn't find it though. > > IMHO this is somehow different (you won't have named streets inside an apartment building, like you might have on a camp ground). Anyway, for

Re: [Tagging] RFC: wheelchair:toilets=yes/no

2013-06-20 Thread fly
On 17.06.2013 23:10, Holger Dieterich wrote: > Hi, > > here's the request for comments on my first proposal: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/wheelchair:toilet > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/wheelchair:toilets > > Please give me feedback. Still

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread Brian Wolford
> > +1 for flush being water carrying it away, but I thought pit would refer > to a hole in the "ground" (or floor, i.e. a place where you stand to do > your business) as opposed to a seat, but now I understand you see this as > opposed to being attached to the sewers? > Not necessarily sewers, bu

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > IMHO this is somehow different (you won't have named streets inside an > apartment building, like you might have on a camp ground). Anyway, for > apartments there is addr:door, addr:flats, addr:unit, addr:suite and maybe > more (gettin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Animal_breeding

2013-06-20 Thread fly
On 17.06.2013 20:26, Alberto wrote: > Ok, I've a solution. I will change the word with . > animal_breeding=;;... > Where in place of animal you must write the English common name of animal > bred. This is simple and maintains consistency with animal_shelter and > animal_boarding. > If you want to

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread fly
On 20.06.2013 16:55, Brian Wolford wrote: > > > +1 for flush being water carrying it away, but I thought pit would > refer to a hole in the "ground" (or floor, i.e. a place where you > stand to do your business) as opposed to a seat, but now I > understand you see this as opposed

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
Well, you also have the old-style outhouse, where you have a small building, including a seat, located above a pit which receives the waste. The temporary latrines used at construction sites are much the same, except that the "pit" is the bottom portion of the latrine, and the whole thing is ha

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
On 20/giu/2013, at 17:03, Paul Johnson wrote: > Err, not quite. Pretty much any large apartment community has named streets, > with addresses on those streets, albeit with red signs (permissive streets) > or black signs (restricted-access streets). fine, I was writing about the building.

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-20 Thread fly
On 11.06.2013 16:05, fly wrote: > Am 11.06.2013 15:00, schrieb Greg Troxel: >> fly writes: >> >> > Having been away from this for a bit, I would propose: >> > >> > Add a landuse=reservoir_protection (or some other name, not in use) to >> > be for the landuse of a parcel that is used f

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread Brian Wolford
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:06 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > Well, you also have the old-style outhouse, where you have a small > building, including a seat, located above a pit which receives the waste. > The temporary latrines used at construction sites are much the same, except > that the "pit"

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > IMHO this is somehow different (you won't have named streets inside an > apartment building, like you might have on a camp ground). > The apartment proposals on the Wiki try to separate out those routes (which may be hallways) based o

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Ok, good points. There are at least three major "front end" experiences, none of which are exclusive at any location: 1. Squat 2. Sit 3. Urinal And one fairly critical front-end refinement related to wiping: 1. Toilet paper provided. 2. BYOP (Bring your own paper if you want it)

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread Brian Wolford
This is great. One note on composing. Compost toilets can be both fixed location pits, and buckets. I'm familiar with systems where buckets (5 to 40 gallons) are filled with waste and then dumped on a local compost or picked up by a third party and brought to a human waste composing center. I woul

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
To me a bucket is a bucket. What happens *outside the toilet* is of no relevance to the toilet experience. The use of chemicals is, however, relevant. Chemically sensitive people for example may avoid chemical toilets of any style. Does that have to be a tag of its own? toilets

Re: [Tagging] Clean up *=milestone (WAS: pk vs kp on *=milestone and default unit?)

2013-06-20 Thread fly
On 18.05.2013 01:14, ppece wrote: > Hi. I'm from polish OSM society. We're currently running local > competition to map milestones and we're using this scheme. > >> * I would suggest to use distance= (mileage= is not metric) instead of >> pk/kp and km (kilometre) as default unit. > > I agree with

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread Brian Wolford
I don't see the relevant difference, then, between an onsite compost toilet and a pit, to the toilet experience.They are both an open drop where you can see the waste. I think it's better to use composting= for designating if its composting and how. Especially since it can or cannot apply to multip

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Brian Wolford wrote: > I don't see the relevant difference, then, between an onsite compost > toilet and a pit, to the toilet experience.They are both an open drop where > you can see the waste. > Perhaps the user experience difference is better captured in a out

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread fly
On 20.06.2013 21:39, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Brian Wolford > mailto:worldwidewolf...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I don't see the relevant difference, then, between an onsite compost > toilet and a pit, to the toilet experience.They are both an open > drop wh

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread fly
On 20.06.2013 18:46, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > Ok, good points. There are at least three major "front end" experiences, > none of which are exclusive at any location: > > 1. Squat > 2. Sit > 3. Urinal > > And one fairly critical front-end refinement related to wiping: > > 1. Toilet paper provid

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread Brian Wolford
Composting: What's catching me up is that that system is just _one_ type of composting toilet. There are many types; dry (w/o urine), simple (w/ urine), vermicompost(worms), electric(vent fan and stirrer), and blackwater for example. And they can be presented in different ways, to operate like mode

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - gross weight

2013-06-20 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi, I agree that the meaning is correct (legally), but I think we need to try and simplify the jargon in the one line summary section. How about: maxgross_weight: All vehicles have a registered upper limit on their allowable mass (when fully loaded). This is often known as the "Gross Weight", and

Re: [Tagging] Reviving "pitlatrine" proposal from 2011

2013-06-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Brian Wolford wrote: > > For what seem to be clear categories: > flush, sealed pit, unsealed pit, removable/"batch" container > Then how does a typical composting toilet get tagged? Flush? Sealed pit? And how do we get the chemical smell aspect into things? seal