Hi,
I've recently stumbled upon some confusing usages of the key
designation=* in my area, so I tried to find out what it really means
and how it is used correctly.
I haven't succeeded.
Of course there is the wiki page [1] at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:designation
which explains that
Your translation is a good and very needed start in my opinion. But to
prevent frustration just don't look at the tags for a while and maybe
pray a little. Maybe people adjust and use the tag in a more
consistent way. Or they don't. Only time will tell.
Martin
2012/10/23 Ronnie Soak :
> Hi,
>
> I
Slowly walk away.
The usage in the UK should be shifted to a new key (maybe something like
path_type), and the rest probably ignored.
The choice of name for the key stemmed from access=designated, and (with
20:20 hindsight) was a mistake. There are some people who prefer to have
multi-purpose key
Hi,
In France, we have a strong misuse of this tag. Some people are using
it instead of name=*. Maybe due to a lack of translation in Potlatch
because "désignation" in French is a synonym of name. It is also used
instead of note=*.
For instance :
building = school
name = Maison de la Pet
Can we at least slow down the effect?
I just checked with my original problem, a newbie mapper plastering
the map with POIs that contained their name also in the designation=*
tag.
He used Potlatch 2.
And now I found it. Potlatch offers a field for 'Official
classification', with a help text that
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Eric Sibert wrote:
> In France, we have a strong misuse of this tag. Some people are using it
> instead of name=*.
See my messages sent in August about this:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2012-August/063824.html
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pip
Thanks Pieren,
Yes, 'I should use the search function' is something I should tattoo
onto the back of my hand or something. (Maybe I start with a post-it.)
Your tool is nice. Maybe something like that can be integrated into OSMI too?
Lets see what Richard says about the trac ticket for Potlatch 2
Ronnie Soak wrote:
With the things I've heard so far, I would at least correct the tags
whenever I find them during my normal edits.
I'm currently doing that, and where appropriate sending a polite message
to newbie mappers about where the "designation" tag came from in the
first place, and
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:47:40 Martin Vonwald (imagic) wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm wondering what ref should be used on slip roads/ramps of a motorway
> (not the junction node, but the way tagged with motorway_link). Up to now
> I've seen: * the reference of the junction
> * the reference of the motorway
>
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Andrew Errington wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:47:40 Martin Vonwald (imagic) wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I'm wondering what ref should be used on slip roads/ramps of a motorway
> > (not the junction node, but the way tagged with motorway_link). Up to now
> > I've seen
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Andrew Errington
> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:47:40 Martin Vonwald (imagic) wrote:
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > I'm wondering what ref should be used on slip roads/ramps of a motorway
>> > (not the junction no
Why make exceptions? Let's keep the rules as simple as possible (but not
simpler). Routes are always relations anyway, to allow ways to be part of
multiple routes.
Legislating that a motorway_link should never have a ref tag, is a rule
which is asking to be broken a million times. I try never to r
Hi!
I think that the voting phase could be opened, I shall wait five days.
If there aren't more suggestions or comments in these days, I will open
voting.
I think that the first proposal has greatly improved with your suggestions.
Recently I have cleaned the page, I have changed obstacle=dense_ve
Well, Andrews suggestion is a bit problematic.
1. in reality, the motorway_links are a official part of the motorway. Just
look at the signs on the side of the motorway_link. Thus, it should be
possible to use ref=A15 for example on a motorway_link.
2. a motorway entry would be quite simple for a
On 10/23/2012 4:10 PM, Johan C wrote:
c) it quite often will be impossible for any (present/future) routing
engine to always predict the right exit number based on the
motorway_junction ref. Imagine a more complicated junction. These may use
y-splits where one highway=motorway is split into two h
On 23.10.2012 19:50, Konfrare Albert wrote:
> I think that the voting phase could be opened, I shall wait five days.
> If there aren't more suggestions or comments in these days, I will open
> voting.
Isn't it a bit early for that? Most uses of the obstacle key are still
for values unrelated to yo
If a motorway link is part of a route (one needs to actually drive on the
link to continue on the route) then I put the ref for that route on the
link. Otherwise, no ref tag.
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On 10/23/12 9:15 PM, David ``Smith'' wrote:
If a motorway link is part of a route (one needs to actually drive on the
link to continue on the route) then I put the ref for that route on the
link. Otherwise, no ref tag.
i agree.
by convention, ref tags get rendered on the map and users of the m
On Oct 23, 2012 8:32 PM, "Richard Welty" wrote:
>
> On 10/23/12 9:15 PM, David ``Smith'' wrote:
>>
>> If a motorway link is part of a route (one needs to actually drive on the
>> link to continue on the route) then I put the ref for that route on the
>> link. Otherwise, no ref tag.
>>
> i agree.
>
On Oct 23, 2012 9:32 PM, "Richard Welty" wrote:
> by convention, ref tags get rendered on the map
I think the main Mapnik rendering does not render ref on highway=*_link,
actually.
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On 10/23/12 11:52 PM, David ``Smith'' wrote:
On Oct 23, 2012 9:32 PM, "Richard Welty" wrote:
by convention, ref tags get rendered on the map
I think the main Mapnik rendering does not render ref on highway=*_link,
actually.
in some sense, that's helpful, in another, it's not.
richard
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Richard Welty wrote:
> On 10/23/12 9:15 PM, David ``Smith'' wrote:
>>
>> If a motorway link is part of a route (one needs to actually drive on the
>> link to continue on the route) then I put the ref for that route on the
>> link. Otherwise, no ref tag.
>>
> i agr
On Oct 24, 2012 12:25 AM, "Andrew Errington" wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Richard Welty
wrote:
> > this is why i don't put New York State Reference Route numbers in the
> > ref tag, i put them in ref:unsigned which isn't rendered.
>
> Isn't that simply tagging for the renderer? A
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:10 PM, David ``Smith'' wrote:
>
> On Oct 24, 2012 12:25 AM, "Andrew Errington" wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Richard Welty
>> wrote:
>> > this is why i don't put New York State Reference Route numbers in the
>> > ref tag, i put them in ref:unsigned whic
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