[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rail_trail

2012-01-30 Thread Masi Master
Hi, i now startet my proposal for RFC! It's about rail-trails (german: Bahntrassenradweg). This is a disused railway, which converted into a multiuse path, normaly for cycling, inlineskating or hiking. Link: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/rail_trail best regards MasiMa

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rail_trail

2012-01-30 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 02:35:50PM +0100, Masi Master wrote: M> i now startet my proposal for RFC! M> It's about rail-trails (german: Bahntrassenradweg). This is a disused M> railway, which converted into a multiuse path, normaly for cycling, M> inlineskating or hiking. M> M> Link: http://wiki

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rail_trail

2012-01-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/1/30 Masi Master : > i now startet my proposal for RFC! > It's about rail-trails (german: Bahntrassenradweg). > Link: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/rail_trail AFAIK this kind of feature is already mapped. The typical tags will be highway=cycleway (because it is a cycl

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rail_trail

2012-01-30 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 02:51:15PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: M> > i now startet my proposal for RFC! M> > It's about rail-trails (german: Bahntrassenradweg). M> > Link: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/rail_trail M> M> M> AFAIK this kind of feature is already mapped. T

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rail_trail

2012-01-30 Thread Volker Schmidt
I like the idea to see ex-railway cycleways on the map. I also like to see cycle routes on the map, and I would like to see ex-railways on the map. I have my doubts whether the tagging of a cycleway as being on a n ex-railway should be done at the level of a key to the highway tag. If I understand

[Tagging] When should a name:* translation be used?

2012-01-30 Thread Nathan Edgars II
I ask because someone added a name:vi tag for Orange County, Florida: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/389011 As far as I know, there is no large Vietnamese population here and no other reason why someone would want to know the literal translation of Orange County into Vietnamese.

Re: [Tagging] When should a name:* translation be used?

2012-01-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/1/30 Nathan Edgars II : > I ask because someone added a name:vi tag for Orange County, Florida: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/389011 > As far as I know, there is no large Vietnamese population here and no other > reason why someone would want to know the literal translation of

Re: [Tagging] When should a name:* translation be used?

2012-01-30 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 1/30/2012 1:07 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/1/30 Nathan Edgars II: I ask because someone added a name:vi tag for Orange County, Florida: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/389011 As far as I know, there is no large Vietnamese population here and no other reason why someone wo

Re: [Tagging] When should a name:* translation be used?

2012-01-30 Thread Mike N
On 1/30/2012 1:14 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: The question is how far we go. Should every Main Street be translated into hundreds of languages? Well, for Orange County FL, one could make the case that it serves tourists, since many visitors come from around the world. But the question of e

Re: [Tagging] When should a name:* translation be used?

2012-01-30 Thread sabas88
2012/1/30 Nathan Edgars II > >> >> It is quite frequent that the names of the more famous places get >> translated into different languages. I don't speak Vietnamese, but >> this looks like nothing particularily strange to me. If you need a >> reason to keep it: I guess the Vietnamese speaking pe

Re: [Tagging] When should a name:* translation be used?

2012-01-30 Thread Volker Schmidt
Could it be that some Vietnamese mapper prepares Vietnamese name tags for being able to produce a world or US map labels in Vietnamese. Why don't you ask the mapper who added the tag? Volker (from Italy) On 30 January 2012 18:53, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > I ask because someone added a name:vi t

Re: [Tagging] When should a name:* translation be used?

2012-01-30 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Martin, what is this? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10542244 This is Orange County, Florida, not Orange County, California. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] When should a name:* translation be used?

2012-01-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > I ask because someone added a name:vi tag for Orange County, Florida: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/**browse/relation/389011 > As far as I know, there is no large Vietnamese population

Re: [Tagging] When should a name:* translation be used?

2012-01-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM, sabas88 wrote: > Every Main St is a famous road? :) > > I'm reminded of this: http://moonbattery.com/occupy-wall-street-small-town.jpg ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/li

[Tagging] Public airport multipolygon?

2012-01-30 Thread Nathan Edgars II
There's a problem with the key type. It's necessary for a multipolygon relation, but also has other uses such as the type of airport (public/private). So how is one to indicate that an airport represented by a multipolygon is public? ___ Tagging mail

Re: [Tagging] Public airport multipolygon?

2012-01-30 Thread Josh Doe
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > There's a problem with the key type. It's necessary for a multipolygon > relation, but also has other uses such as the type of airport > (public/private). So how is one to indicate that an airport represented by a > multipolygon is public?

Re: [Tagging] Public airport multipolygon?

2012-01-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/1/30 Nathan Edgars II : > There's a problem with the key type. +1 > It's necessary for a multipolygon > relation, it is necessary for all kinds of relations. We could discourage the use of the key "type" in favour of more specific keys like building:type, airport:type etc. or change the

Re: [Tagging] Public airport multipolygon?

2012-01-30 Thread sabas88
2012/1/30 Josh Doe > > I guess you can't, at least not now. That's one issue with the > free-form tagging system we use. Sooner or later we'll have to develop > a process to deprecate tags, change tags, etc. Perhaps we should start > a separate thread and discuss how this process could work. +1

Re: [Tagging] Public airport multipolygon?

2012-01-30 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 1/30/2012 3:29 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: There's a problem with the key type. It's necessary for a multipolygon relation, but also has other uses such as the type of airport (public/private). So how is one to indicate that an airport represented by a multipolygon is public? Addendum: would

Re: [Tagging] When should a name:* translation be used?

2012-01-30 Thread Craig Wallace
On 30/01/2012 17:53, Nathan Edgars II wrote: I ask because someone added a name:vi tag for Orange County, Florida: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/389011 As far as I know, there is no large Vietnamese population here and no other reason why someone would want to know the literal tran

Re: [Tagging] When should a name:* translation be used?

2012-01-30 Thread LM_1
Some cities/towns (especially those that are important for a long time) have different names in different languages (here in Europe almost every major and many minor towns). If there is such a name, it should be added. If I browse through map of China, I would like to see Peking (Czech name), I can

Re: [Tagging] Public airport multipolygon?

2012-01-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 30/gen/2012 um 21:47 schrieb Nathan Edgars II : > On 1/30/2012 3:29 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: >> such as the type of airport >> (public/private). > > Addendum: would access=public be correct for a public airport, -1 > or is that bad because the polygon also includes the restricted areas?

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rail_trail

2012-01-30 Thread Masi Master
Ok, i agree with most of you! highway=cycleway + railway=abandoned is good. Some people prefer highway=cycleway + railway=dismantled (see: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Railways#Abandoned_railways_where_all_evidence_has_been_removed) So should we change the proposal to these both cas

Re: [Tagging] Public airport multipolygon?

2012-01-30 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 1/30/2012 7:29 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Btw: what is the meaning of Public/private airport? Is this the operator? The proprietor? I'd choose a tag that makes it unambiguously clear which property it refers to. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Daerodrome "To identify the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - rail_trail

2012-01-30 Thread Bryce2 Nesbitt
Your proposal should draw much more heavily from existing practice, in particular for attributes like the surface. Typical rail trail surfaces are basalt rock leftover from the railroad, dirt (after the basalt rock sinks), stone dust deliberately placed, and pavement. Despite having worked on seve