Re: [Tagging] suitable tag for garden and forest machinery shop

2011-06-22 Thread Stephen Hope
On 22 June 2011 16:14, Colin Smale wrote: > That's for the renderer to sort out... We just need to make sure that the > data makes/enables the distinctions that we do as humans. The renderer can > always map multiple tags onto the same icon if it wants to. I think I would > call this Garden Tools.

Re: [Tagging] suitable tag for garden and forest machinery shop

2011-06-22 Thread Colin Smale
On 22/06/2011 09:00, Stephen Hope wrote: On 22 June 2011 16:14, Colin Smale wrote: That's for the renderer to sort out... We just need to make sure that the data makes/enables the distinctions that we do as humans. The renderer can always map multiple tags onto the same icon if it wants to. I t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Josh Doe wrote: > > I removed the yes and no values, because I couldn't see any utility, > instead offering the "unknown" value. > > I don't think it is a good idea. In fact, the 'yes' value is widely used in OSM when you don't know the details (e.g. aerial imager

Re: [Tagging] Missing only_u_turn?

2011-06-22 Thread Richard Mann
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Stephen Hope wrote: > On 22 June 2011 15:13, Steve Bennett wrote: > I assumed he meant "only U-turn and forward" - ie no left or right > turns.  I have seen that restriction once at a t-junction, where the > side street can enter the main road in either direction,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/22 Pieren : > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Josh Doe wrote: >> >> I removed the yes and no values, because I couldn't see any utility, >> instead offering the "unknown" value. >> > > I don't think it is a good idea. In fact, the 'yes' value is widely used in > OSM when you don't know the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread Tobias Knerr
2011-06-22 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: > 2011/6/22 Pieren : >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Josh Doe wrote: >>> >>> I removed the yes and no values, because I couldn't see any utility, >>> instead offering the "unknown" value. >> >> I don't think it is a good idea. In fact, the 'yes' value is widely

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread Josh Doe
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: > One problem I see with these kinds of proposals is that they map very > well to a particular jurisdiction or standard, but will be very hard > to apply elsewhere. Perhaps the distinction of <3cm, =3cm, >3cm is > very common somewhere - but

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread Tobias Knerr
2011-06-22 Josh Doe: > I think we're definitely going for functional. The original author used > those height ranges, and I'm not sure if there's any value to mention > something specific like 16cm, so I changed it to ~0cm for flush, ~3cm > for lowered, and >3cm for raised. I've edited the proposal

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread Josh Doe
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: > 2011-06-22 Josh Doe: > > I think we're definitely going for functional. The original author used > > those height ranges, and I'm not sure if there's any value to mention > > something specific like 16cm, so I changed it to ~0cm for flush, ~3

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread Richard Mann
Urban normal in the UK is 100-120mm. Raised (at eg bus stops) is about 160-200mm On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Josh Doe wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: >> >> 2011-06-22 Josh Doe: >> > I think we're definitely going for functional. The original author used >> > th

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread Robert Naylor
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:22:55 +0100, Josh Doe wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: One problem I see with these kinds of proposals is that they map very well to a particular jurisdiction or standard, but will be very hard to apply elsewhere. Perhaps the distinction

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread Josh Doe
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Robert Naylor wrote: > I'm the original author. I was going to bring it up in tagging but I got > behind in mapping collected data, and have been working more recently. > Ah, good to meet you Pobice, nice to know you're still around. I originally started with f

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
what about introducing a kerb:height ? Implying heights from values like "yes", "raised", "normal" will probably not be very reliable or stable as this might vary from country to country and also in different cities/neighbourhoods. cheers, Martin ___ Ta

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread Seth Golub
It seems that kerb=flush is saying that there is no kerb. kerb=no seems more intuitive, and probably some people will use it no matter what the wiki says, so why have flush at all? "lowered" seems to mean "raised, but not very much". I imagine the intent was "lowered compared to the otherwise ra

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:14 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > what about introducing a kerb:height ? Implying heights from values > like "yes", "raised", "normal" will probably not be very reliable or > stable as this might vary from country to country and also in > different cities/neighbourhoods

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread Josh Doe
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:14 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > what about introducing a kerb:height ? Implying heights from values > like "yes", "raised", "normal" will probably not be very reliable or > stable as this might vary from country to country and also in > different cities/neighbourhood

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread Josh Doe
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Seth Golub wrote: > It seems that kerb=flush is saying that there is no kerb. kerb=no seems > more intuitive, and probably some people will use it no matter what the wiki > says, so why have flush at all? > Flush kerbs are important to note especially for the bl

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-22 Thread Josh Doe
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:14 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > what about introducing a kerb:height ? Implying heights from values > > like "yes", "raised", "normal" will probably not be very reliable or > > stable as this might vary fro