Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-05 Thread John Smith
Even if historic=event is removed from the wiki, and even if historic=battlefield is removed I doubt it will stop people mapping these locations, they are important to people, and people have already shown that there are physical places that can be mapped. In fact the only thing that will be accom

Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-05 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/5 John Smith : > Even if historic=event is removed from the wiki, and even if > historic=battlefield is removed I doubt it will stop people mapping > these locations, they are important to people, and people have already > shown that there are physical places that can be mapped. Yes, they

Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 May 2011 00:50, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/5/5 John Smith : >> Even if historic=event is removed from the wiki, and even if >> historic=battlefield is removed I doubt it will stop people mapping >> these locations, they are important to people, and people have already >> shown that the

Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-05 Thread Pieren
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:30 PM, John Smith wrote: > In fact the only thing that will be accomplished by removing > references on the wiki is people will use multiple key/value pairs for > the same type of object because they can't see any other values that are > already documented. > > Between the

[Tagging] OSM Map Features - Organized spreadsheet highlighting recommendations

2011-05-05 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi all, I'm happy to report that my OpenAccess spreadsheet is now complete with listing all of the Map Features, which are listed on the OSM wiki, and the presets menu in the latest JOSM. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Am70fsptsPF2dHJxMG05Zmg2YS1LeFg2czRZOWZEU3c&hl=en I have highlighte

Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 May 2011 00:59, Pieren wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:30 PM, John Smith > wrote: >> >> In fact the only thing that will be accomplished by removing >> references on the wiki is people will use multiple key/value pairs for >> the same type of object because they can't see any other values

Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-05 Thread Andre Engels
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:54 PM, John Smith wrote: >> Yes, they already do use it: >> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/historic%3Aevent#values > > No, I meant more like historic=pa > > I have no idea what it means, but there is 2100 uses... > > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/historic#val

Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 May 2011 01:09, Andre Engels wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:54 PM, John Smith wrote: > >>> Yes, they already do use it: >>> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/historic%3Aevent#values >> >> No, I meant more like historic=pa >> >> I have no idea what it means, but there is 2100 uses... >>

Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-05 Thread Simone Saviolo
2011/5/5 John Smith > On 6 May 2011 01:09, Andre Engels wrote: > > Unless you are in New Zealand, you're unlikely to tag the same thing: > > It's being used for a Maori fortress, see > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C4%81_%28M%C4%81ori%29 > > That seems too specific, it should be a subset of

Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 May 2011 01:34, Simone Saviolo wrote: > 2011/5/5 John Smith >> >> On 6 May 2011 01:09, Andre Engels wrote: >>  > Unless you are in New Zealand, you're unlikely to tag the same thing: >> > It's being used for a Maori fortress, see >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C4%81_%28M%C4%81ori%29 >>

Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-05 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/5 Andre Engels : > Unless you are in New Zealand, you're unlikely to tag the same thing: > It's being used for a Maori fortress, see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C4%81_%28M%C4%81ori%29 IMHO the tag is not very well chosen. Besides that I agree with John Smith (subtagging as a fortress)

Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-05 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/5 Simone Saviolo : > 2011/5/5 John Smith > Aren't we nitpicking? I've tagged remains of Roman cities whose "physical > presence" is arguable, but nonetheless those are places of historical > interest in that a Roman building or forum was there. Usually you will also find something on the

Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-05 Thread Pieren
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:26 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Usually you will also find something on the ground, at least if you > dig. Looking at the page for historic=event I can see that most people > are arguing against historic=event and historic=battlefield because > there is "nothing on the

Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-05 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/5 Pieren : > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:26 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > Note that the OP is about historic=event, not battlefield. The edit war > started because  JohnSmith documented what you, Martin, suggested in a > previous thread although that thread showed already a strong opposit

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Car access tag

2011-05-05 Thread Stefan Bethke
I've completed the draft and would like to solicit your comments: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Car_access_tag The proposal introduces a new tag car=* that applies to just cars, and clarifies the meaning of the motorcar=* tag, which applies access=* restrictions to cars

Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 May 2011 04:15, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > e.g. there is a place in Rome which is said to be the locus where > Julius Cesar was stabbed by Brutus. I find this interesting and I I hadn't thought about assassinations, but all it took was an assassination to kick start World War 1, yes there