Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-11 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
NopMap wrote: > Yes, you missed something. I think you also miss lot of things. Reply you got were mostly sarcastic and it's a vague discussion in an obscur ML. Launch a bot after receiving 3 confuse answers on a mailing list is not a consensus. Many users do not read this thread and discove

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-11 Thread Tom Chance
Throwing my hat in like a true masochist... I have added perhaps 100 trees - urban/rural, in 'clusters' and on streets where I would not say there is a cluster but where they are closer than 50m. I am also interested in an import from my local council. The wiki is clearly ambiguous and not follow

[Tagging] tall masts supported by guy wires

2010-09-11 Thread David Groom
What's the preferred way of tagging a mast like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rowridge_from_entrance_gate_200704270010.jpg From memory I had thought it was man_made=mast, but I cant find any mention of that on the wiki. I see on the wiki there is a" man_made=tower" + "tower:type=comm

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/10 NopMap : > John F. Eldredge wrote: >> Perhaps i've miss something but i haven't see a discussion about a bot > Yes, you missed something. Check the posts from Sept. 7th: > Tagging ML: > Anthony-6: "Can't that analysis be expanded to the world, and the trees > retagged?" > M∡rtin Koppenhoe

Re: [Tagging] tall masts supported by guy wires

2010-09-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/11 David Groom : > What's the preferred way of tagging a mast like this > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rowridge_from_entrance_gate_200704270010.jpg > > From memory I had thought it was man_made=mast, but I cant find any mention > of that on the wiki. > > I see on the wiki there is a"

Re: [Tagging] tall masts supported by guy wires

2010-09-11 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:27 AM, David Groom wrote: > What's the preferred way of tagging a mast like this > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rowridge_from_entrance_gate_200704270010.jpg > > From memory I had thought it was man_made=mast, but I cant find any mention > of that on the wiki. > > I

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
I agree with Pierre-Alain. Whether or not a particular tree is worth noting is a subjective decision, and can be based upon its appearance, its location, what notable events may have occurred near it, etc. Yes, being the only tree for some distance can be a factor, but it isn't the only possib

[Tagging] tagging towers WAS Re: tall masts supported by guy wires

2010-09-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/11 Nathan Edgars II : > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:27 AM, David Groom wrote: >> What's the preferred way of tagging a mast like this >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rowridge_from_entrance_gate_200704270010.jpg >> >> From memory I had thought it was man_made=mast, but I cant find any

Re: [Tagging] tagging towers WAS Re: tall masts supported by guy wires

2010-09-11 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/9/11 Nathan Edgars II : >> It's a guyed tower. > > a tower is "self-supporting", which might be read as contradictory to > guys (unless you consider the guys being part of the tower itself). Then explain the heavy use of "guyed t

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-11 Thread Chris Hill
Nop, Thanks for adding tags to trees in my locality. I assume from the fixme tag (fixme = set better denotation) on each tree that you think I should be denoting something about the tree. I added a type, a botanical name (name:botanical), I gathered the data from a survey on the ground, oh ye

Re: [Tagging] tagging towers WAS Re: tall masts supported by guy wires

2010-09-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/11 Nathan Edgars II : > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> 2010/9/11 Nathan Edgars II : >>> It's a guyed tower. >> >> a tower is "self-supporting", which might be read as contradictory to >> guys (unless you consider the guys being part of the tower itself). >

Re: [Tagging] tagging towers WAS Re: tall masts supported by guy wires

2010-09-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 September 2010 01:39, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I would like to be able to tag something like this: > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/b/b5/Stundturm_Schaessburg.JPG > or this with parametrical values that allow for three-dimensional > reconstruction as simple 3D-models: > http://

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/11/10 12:06 PM, Chris Hill wrote: You have proved how skilful you are at automated edits, so please, use these powerful skills to remove the graffiti you have added to so many objects across the world. i think that he simultaneously ran this bot while announcing that he was opting out

Re: [Tagging] tagging towers WAS Re: tall masts supported by guy wires

2010-09-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/11 John Smith : > On 12 September 2010 01:39, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> I would like to be able to tag something like this: >> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/b/b5/Stundturm_Schaessburg.JPG >> or this with parametrical values that allow for three-dimensional >> reconstructio

Re: [Tagging] tagging towers WAS Re: tall masts supported by guywires

2010-09-11 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "M∡rtin Koppenhoefer" To: "Nathan Edgars II" Cc: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [Tagging] tagging towers WAS Re: tall masts supported by guywires 2010/9/11 Nathan Edgars II : On Sa

Re: [Tagging] tagging towers WAS Re: tall masts supported by guywires

2010-09-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/11 David Groom : > Personally I'd like to see a different top level tag to differentiate > between more solid structural towers such as towers > http://www.visitingdc.com/images/eiffel-tower-picture.jpg > http://www.canadaphotoseries.com/files/canada/images/Toronto-CN-Tower.jpg > http://medi

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] social facility

2010-09-11 Thread John Smith
On 11 September 2010 06:28, Sean Horgan wrote: > I'd like to get some feedback from the community on possible inclusion of > "emergency shelter" in a "social facility" feature. I was discussing this Is that the primary purpose? If it is, wouldn't it be emergency=shelter? __

[Tagging] trees and waterways

2010-09-11 Thread Nathan Edgars II
I'm wondering what the difference is between the recent discussions about trees and waterways. Here's the way things look to me: *The wiki says something should be tagged a certain way: ("lone or significant tree" for natural=tree | "direction of the way should be downstream" for waterway=river, st

Re: [Tagging] trees and waterways

2010-09-11 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Nathan Edgars II wrote: please note that english is not my current language. > I'm wondering what the difference is between the recent discussions > about trees and waterways. Here's the way things look to me: > *The wiki says something should be tagged a certain way: ("lone or > significant tre

Re: [Tagging] trees and waterways

2010-09-11 Thread Cartinus
On Saturday 11 September 2010 22:38:34 Nathan Edgars II wrote: > I'm wondering what the difference is between the recent discussions > about trees and waterways. Here's the way things look to me: > *The wiki says something should be tagged a certain way: ("lone or > significant tree" for natural=tr

Re: [Tagging] trees and waterways

2010-09-11 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Cartinus wrote: > In the second case there is only a problem according to one person. The other > people are not ignoring the problem.They are just smarter. Oh fuck off. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] trees and waterways

2010-09-11 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Pierre-Alain Dorange wrote: > ... Perhaps have you a proposition. But for my part, it seems "natural" > to use the natural flow of the way has the natural flow of the river. It may be natural once one knows that you're supposed to represent the direction. But I've

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-11 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:19:00 + "John F. Eldredge" wrote: > I agree with Pierre-Alain. Whether or not a particular tree is worth > noting is a subjective decision, and can be based upon its > appearance, its location, what notable events may have occurred near > it, etc. Yes, being the only

Re: [Tagging] tagging towers WAS Re: tall masts supported byguywires

2010-09-11 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "M∡rtin Koppenhoefer" To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [Tagging] tagging towers WAS Re: tall masts supported byguywires 2010/9/11 David Groom : Personally I'd like to see a diffe

Re: [Tagging] trees and waterways

2010-09-11 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 17:45:04 -0400 Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Pierre-Alain Dorange > wrote: > > ... Perhaps have you a proposition. But for my part, it seems > > "natural" to use the natural flow of the way has the natural flow > > of the river. > > It may be nat

Re: [Tagging] trees and waterways

2010-09-11 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Nathan Edgars II" To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 9:38 PM Subject: [Tagging] trees and waterways I'm wondering what the difference is between the recent discussions about trees and waterways. Here's t

Re: [Tagging] trees and waterways

2010-09-11 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi, For the Canada canvec dataset, the map feature is available, and direction of the way was not taken into account. So the tag 'oneway=yes' was not used as a preset. However, for those who are interested in making the waterflow correct (and render an arrow). In Canada we do have geobase Natio

Re: [Tagging] trees and waterways

2010-09-11 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Nathan Edgars II" To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [Tagging] trees and waterways On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Pierre-Alain Dorange wrote: ... Perhaps have you a proposition

Re: [Tagging] trees and waterways

2010-09-11 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:10 PM, David Groom wrote: > I think the difference can be summed up as: > > With the tagging of trees the definition in the wiki was unclear; "lone or > significant" can mean different things to different people. > > With the tagging of waterways the comment that "the way

Re: [Tagging] trees and waterways

2010-09-11 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:22 PM, David Groom wrote: > Alternatively they may not have realised they were > supposed to map the waterway so its direction was the same as the river > flow. Almost certainly this. There's not even anything on the main waterway page; you have to go to one of the subpa

Re: [Tagging] trees and waterways

2010-09-11 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Nathan Edgars II wrote: > It may be natural once one knows that you're supposed to represent the > direction. But I've come across many waterways that were mapped > without regard for the direction. Three examples, Yes of course, but it can be fixed easily fixed. I assume also there are lot of