Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] tagging Greenways

2009-12-21 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Paul Johnson > Sent: 20 December 2009 22:31 > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Cc: t...@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] tagging Gre

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] tagging Greenways

2009-12-21 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris _ From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Steve Bennett Sent: 21 December 2009 06:21 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] tagging Greenways Quesion is: is there anythin

[Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Erik Johansson
Hi I've slowly started using addr:housenumbers, I'm not really interested in doing it according to the way the addr:* scheme work atm though.. Because of the amount of work to enter data in that scheme. Here are the things that I believe is different from the addr:* scheme.. 1. I use addr:housen

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Erik Johansson wrote: > 1. I use addr:housenumbers, just to get numbers on the map. Even > though I don't follow the spec. Then why don't you use "place=locality, name=45-29" if that's all you want. > Does anyone have any improvements to make this scheme better? Yes, use the same scheme tha

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/12/21 Erik Johansson > Hi > > I've slowly started using addr:housenumbers, I'm not really interested > in doing it according to the way the addr:* scheme work atm though.. > Because of the amount of work to enter data in that scheme. are you aware of JOSM-Presets and autocompletion? If yo

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread David Earl
On 21/12/2009 15:39, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > are you aware of JOSM-Presets and autocompletion? If you work in JOSM > and use the presets, the street, city and country-tags will be > autocompleted. Furthermore if you use JOSM's addressing plugin, you don't have to type the street name at all

Re: [Tagging] Post_Box and addr:* nodes

2009-12-21 Thread Matthias Julius
"Randy" writes: > Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote: >> >>Well i got a list from the postal service over all the postal boxes >>the list is like this >> >>Postal nr | City | where it is | Address >> >>and the column "where it is" is an ordinary description of where it >>is,possible values are attach

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Erik Johansson wrote: >> 1. I use addr:housenumbers, just to get numbers on the map. Even >> though I don't follow the spec. > > Then why don't you use "place=locality, name=45-29" if that's all you want. Thanks, that's a good idea (

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM, David Earl wrote: > On 21/12/2009 15:39, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> are you aware of JOSM-Presets and autocompletion? If you work in JOSM >> and use the presets, the street, city and country-tags will be >> autocompleted. > > Furthermore if you use JOSM's addres

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Tobias Knerr
Erik Johansson wrote: > Does anyone have any improvements to make this scheme better? Yes: Choose key names for your scheme that aren't already in use and are clearly different from existing keys. That is, they shouldn't start with "addr:" - that prefix is commonly used for tagging addresses in a

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/12/21 Erik Johansson > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Frederik Ramm > wrote: > > Then why don't you use "place=locality, name=45-29" if that's all you > want. > > Thanks, that's a good idea (if it works), what do you mean by: if it works? All alternative ways to the well established add

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2009/12/21 Erik Johansson >> >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Frederik Ramm >> wrote: >> > Then why don't you use "place=locality, name=45-29" if that's all you >> > want. >> >> Thanks, that's a good idea (if it works), > > what do

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/12/21 Erik Johansson > But it is retrieved in the only way I care about namely the rendered > map. It could be retrieved by geocoders as well, with small changes, > it was this change I wanted help with. Note, place=locality seems even > better after what you said, or do you have a better ta

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Erik Johansson wrote: > > Does anyone have any improvements to make this scheme better? If you know where the other end of the street is, use an addr:interpolation way, in accordance with the wiki. I think your case was essentially why addr:interpolation was esta

Re: [Tagging] More cycleway=* values needed

2009-12-21 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Bennett wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> >> Never mind simply tagging it loses spatial detail in the process, and >> complicates routing engines (since turns are often restricted or >> prohibited from the cycle track across the adjacent road and vice >> ver

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-21 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Bennett wrote: >> Except highway=footway is automatically bicycle=no. >> >> > Depends on the country. I'm gonna have to disagree... if it allows both pedestrians and bicycles, that would be a cycleway in most cases. ___ Tagging mailing list Tag

[Tagging] [tagging] covered=yes - Approved

2009-12-21 Thread Randy
The property tag covered=yes has been approved, and has been added to the features list. -- Randy ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2009-12-21 11:01, Roy Wallace wrote: >... If you don't know where the other end of the >street is, you can't use an addr:interpolation way, so it seems to me >that you are just tagging a sign. > >Is there already a tagging scheme for this? If not, propose one - but >(as others have said) don't u

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-21 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Depends on the country. > > I'm gonna have to disagree... if it allows both pedestrians and > bicycles, that would be a cycleway in most cases. > > Disagree all you like. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restr

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-21 Thread Stephen Hope
2009/12/22 Paul Johnson : > > I'm gonna have to disagree... if it allows both pedestrians and > bicycles, that would be a cycleway in most cases. > Around me, that is not the case. The law where I live is that anybody is allowed to cycle on any footpath, unless it is otherwise signed, or there is

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-21 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > Disagree all you like. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions > In the US, highway=pedestrian defaults to bicycle=yes, but highway=footway defaults to bicycle=no? Sometimes you just need to ignore t

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/12/22 Anthony > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > >> Disagree all you like. >> >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions >> > > In the US, highway=pedestrian defaults to bicycle=yes, but highway=footway > defaults to bicycle=no? >

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-21 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2009/12/22 Anthony > >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: >> >>> Disagree all you like. >>> >>> >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions >>> >> >> In the US, highway=pedestria