Re: [Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

2013-01-22 Thread Elliott Plack
In JOSM, there exists an option to use the share_lane tag. I'm going to use that because it looks like sharrow should be merged into the description of shared lane. - http://about.me/elliottp | http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ElliottPlack -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327

Re: [Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

2013-01-16 Thread Brad Neuhauser
To me, the Schutzstreifen example should be tagged a bike lane. This page discusses an example of what I'd see as the shared lane (see photo at bottom of page)... http://www.bikewalktwincities.org/news-events/news/biking-walking-and-blogging-what-bicyclists-may-use-full-lane (tl;dr: by state law

Re: [Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

2013-01-16 Thread Balgofil
> > Judging from the description, "shared_lane" means that there are bike > markings on the side of the road, but no full lane. We have something > like that here: usually a bike symbol with a metre or so of dotted > line next to it. > Here is an image of a "Schutzstreifen": http://www.hamburg.ad

Re: [Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

2013-01-15 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Balgofil wrote: > So one solution that was pointed out in the thread is to tag the > "Schutzstreifen" with cycleway=shared_lane because of the description > in the wiki. I then pointed out, that in the UK there is a similar > situation, but no solution to it (see

Re: [Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

2013-01-12 Thread Paul Johnson
I really need to get the River Parks Authority here in touch with Portland and Seattle on how it's done... MUPs suck for everyone involved, but a pedestrian-free cycleway with a vehicle-free sidewalk works wonders. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at

Re: [Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

2013-01-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Your traffic engineers really need to tell Oregon how it's done. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 6:58 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> Sharrow markings are typically (and properly) only found on bicycle >> routes that do not have dedicated bicycle lanes, and bicycle boulevards. >

Re: [Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

2013-01-12 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > A sharrow indicates a shared_lane (one of two markings in use in the US; > the other being a bicycle symbol by itself with no chevrons, usually > accompanied by the "share the road" advisory signs; this may be Oklahoma > specific usage as Okl

Re: [Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

2013-01-12 Thread John F. Eldredge
Paul Johnson wrote: > Sharrow markings are typically (and properly) only found on bicycle > routes > that do not have dedicated bicycle lanes, and bicycle boulevards. > cycleway=shared_lane in the US, save for locales that Did Not Get the > Memo™, should also have bicycle=designated and be a mem

Re: [Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

2013-01-12 Thread Paul Johnson
This dashed/solid distinction applies to the US as well (though some states, such as Oregon, make lanes that have restrictions such as mandatory turns or specific traffic types, separated by double-width lines as well). On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Richard Mann < richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail

Re: [Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

2013-01-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Sharrow markings are typically (and properly) only found on bicycle routes that do not have dedicated bicycle lanes, and bicycle boulevards. cycleway=shared_lane in the US, save for locales that Did Not Get the Memo™, should also have bicycle=designated and be a member of the appropriate type=rout

Re: [Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

2013-01-12 Thread Paul Johnson
A sharrow indicates a shared_lane (one of two markings in use in the US; the other being a bicycle symbol by itself with no chevrons, usually accompanied by the "share the road" advisory signs; this may be Oklahoma specific usage as Oklahoma doesn't use sharrows, however). On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at

Re: [Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

2013-01-12 Thread Richard Mann
I think shared_lane is used when the bikes are sharing the lane with cars, perhaps with a cycle logo in the centre of the lane. Sharrows are when there are cycle logos to one side, but no lane marking (not very common in the UK; I've seen them in Brussels alongside parked cars, and they're more oft

Re: [Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

2013-01-12 Thread Greg Troxel
Balgofil writes: > 1. "Radfahrstreifen": cycle lanes which are mandatory indicated by a > sign and a solid lane (cycleway=lane) > > 2. "Schutzstreifen" cycle lanes with dashed lines not so wide as a > "Radfahrstreifen" and therefore only advisory and no sign (cycleway=?) I think the most impo