Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Colin Smale wrote: > shoulder:motor_vehicle=* feels better. But you are not allowed to walk on > the shoulder anyway, so actually something like shoulder:access=breakdown > would be a better start. > parking:lane:right=no_parking would already be the existing tag

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-30 Thread Hubert
>-Original Message- >From: Andy Mabbett [mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk] >Sent: Samstag, 30. Januar 2016 14:47 >To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools >Subject: Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging > >On 30 January 2016 at 13:1

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-30 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 30 January 2016 at 13:11, Colin Smale wrote: > shoulder:motor_vehicle=* feels better. But you are not allowed to walk on > the shoulder anyway, so actually something like shoulder:access=breakdown > would be a better start. My question was about shoulders which are for emergency use only; exc

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-30 Thread Colin Smale
shoulder:motor_vehicle=* feels better. But you are not allowed to walk on the shoulder anyway, so actually something like shoulder:access=breakdown would be a better start. --colin On 2016-01-30 12:31, Warin wrote: > On 30/01/2016 9:54 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> motor_vehicle:shoulder=* ??

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-30 Thread Warin
On 30/01/2016 9:54 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: motor_vehicle:shoulder=* ?? motor vehicles around here don't have shoulders. At least not that I have noticed. No, the shoulders that are being considered are attached to highways... On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Andy Mabbett mailto:a...@pigson

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-30 Thread Paul Johnson
motor_vehicle:shoulder=* ?? On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 29 January 2016 at 13:14, Richard Fairhurst > wrote: > > > > Thanks to everyone who contributed. > > > > I've accordingly formalised the page and moved it to > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shoulder

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 29 January 2016 at 13:14, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > Thanks to everyone who contributed. > > I've accordingly formalised the page and moved it to > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shoulder . Thanks. What about the case (such as "managed motorways", in the UK) where a shoulder is rese

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
dieterdreist wrote: > yes, Standstreifen, Standspur, Seitenstreifen, Randstreifen. I've > improved the proposal to make this clearer for non-native people > (added a definition (from WP), added more German synonyms, > images) Thanks to everyone who contributed. I've accordingly formalised the

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 26 January 2016 at 10:15, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:59 AM, Gerd Petermann > wrote: >> >> Seitenstreifen > > Yes, that would be what we're referring to, if Google Translate is to be > believed. If only there was a free online encyclopedia... https://en.wikipedia.org

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-26 Thread Gerd Petermann
Thanks, that helps a lot:-) Von: Martin Koppenhoefer Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Januar 2016 11:22 An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging 2016-01-26 10:59 GMT+01:00 Gerd Petermann

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-01-26 10:59 GMT+01:00 Gerd Petermann : > Dou you think that shoulder means what we call "Seitenstreifen" ? yes, Standstreifen, Standspur, Seitenstreifen, Randstreifen. I've improved the proposal to make this clearer for non-native people (added a definition (from WP), added more German syn

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:59 AM, Gerd Petermann < gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Seitenstreifen Yes, that would be what we're referring to, if Google Translate is to be believed. http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/84rYvy_hxh95K8ipF1NfVw/photo has an example of an expressway with both a

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-26 Thread Warin
On 26/01/2016 8:59 PM, Gerd Petermann wrote: Hi, As a German I am not sure if I understand what shoulder means. In Germany we have a traffic_sign "Seitenstreifen nicht befahrbar" and one with a pictogram: http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wolkdirekt.com%2Fimages%2F600%2F5360

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-26 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi, As a German I am not sure if I understand what shoulder means. In Germany we have a traffic_sign "Seitenstreifen nicht befahrbar" and one with a pictogram: http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wolkdirekt.com%2Fimages%2F600%2F536052%2Fverkehrsschild-nach-stvo-typ-1-nr-388-seit

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:35 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > From my travels .. I'd say the most frequent (most miles) case is > shoulder=no. > Of course this could be made sensitive to the highway classification .. > motorways usually have a shoulder, driveways don't. > I would still

Re: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging

2016-01-26 Thread Warin
On 26/01/2016 8:23 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Hi all, At present there is no documented standard for tagging highway shoulders. We have http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shoulder with shoulder=yes|no, which has been in 'draft (under way)' since 2010. In Australia, cycleway=shoulder appears