Hi, As a German I am not sure if I understand what shoulder means. In Germany we have a traffic_sign "Seitenstreifen nicht befahrbar" and one with a pictogram: http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wolkdirekt.com%2Fimages%2F600%2F536052%2Fverkehrsschild-nach-stvo-typ-1-nr-388-seitenstreifen-f-mehrspurige-fahrzeuge-nicht-befahrbar.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wolkdirekt.com%2Fverkehrsschilder.html&h=600&w=600&tbnid=_olMoMJf-q2L2M%3A&docid=DQxsHaya53Mr-M&ei=10KnVt7BLsW6UaeYrIgL&tbm=isch&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=385&page=1&start=0&ndsp=49&ved=0ahUKEwieicOdm8fKAhVFXRQKHScMC7EQrQMIHjAA
Dou you think that shoulder means what we call "Seitenstreifen" ? Gerd ________________________________________ Von: Richard Fairhurst <rich...@systemed.net> Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Januar 2016 10:23 An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Betreff: [Tagging] Formalising shoulder tagging Hi all, At present there is no documented standard for tagging highway shoulders. We have http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shoulder with shoulder=yes|no, which has been in 'draft (under way)' since 2010. In Australia, cycleway=shoulder appears also to be used. Taginfo stats are: shoulder = * 7120, of which: shoulder = no 3230 shoulder = yes 2743 shoulder = right 964 shoulder:width = * 1794 shoulder:right = * 1047 width:shoulder = * 843 cycleway = shoulder 502 There are several gazillion miles (approximate value) of roads with shoulders around the world. We should have a way to tag them. I'd therefore suggest simply formalising the most popular existing usage and the one on the wiki page - that is, shoulder=yes|no. As a default, I'd suggest shoulder=yes is presumed as the most common real-world situation, i.e.: "A paved shoulder, wide enough to be used as an emergency refuge for cars, and for through passage by bicycles." (Narrow shoulders can of course be tagged with shoulder:width, gravel ones by shoulder:surface, and so on.) There are of course many refinements one could imagine, for peak-hour shoulder running, buses, etc. But since "the perfect is the enemy of the good" etc., I'd like to get the basic shoulder=yes|no agreed first. Speak now or forever hold your peace! cheers Richard _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
