Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-10 Thread marc marc
Le 10.02.19 à 14:34, s8evq a écrit : > On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 14:58:42 +1100, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 03/02/19 13:37, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 12:07, marc marc >> > wrote: >>> >>> I think it would be better to c

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-10 Thread s8evq
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 14:58:42 +1100, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 03/02/19 13:37, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 12:07, marc marc > > wrote: > > > > I think it would be better to continue the current club=scout > > syst

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-04 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 08:12, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Both my sons went through the Australian Air Force Cadets > http://www.aafc.org.au/ > > It was emphasised that "The Australian Air Force Cadets (AAFC) is a youth > oriented organisation that is administered and actively supported by the > R

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-03 Thread Philip Barnes
Not sure the scouts would appreciate being labelled as yoof. I know I wouldn't have when I was a scout. Phil (trigpoint) On 3 February 2019 04:58:42 CET, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >On 03/02/19 13:37, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 12:07, marc marc >

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-02 Thread Warin
On 03/02/19 13:37, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 12:07, marc marc > wrote: I think it would be better to continue the current club=scout system and add precision with scouts=Scouts|Guiding|Patro|Chiro or any other tag to describe

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 12:07, marc marc wrote: > I think it would be better to continue the current club=scout system and > add precision with > scouts=Scouts|Guiding|Patro|Chiro or any other tag to describe the > "upstream" organisation/variant. > That's a nice neat solution +1 Naturally though

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-02 Thread marc marc
Le 02.02.19 à 15:11, Paul Allen a écrit : > unless somebody comes up with a valid objection, just go with club=chiro I and my family members are or have been part of the "Scouts", Guides and Patro. There are subtle numbers between them but I don't think any of them would contradict me if I say t

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-02 Thread Warin
On 02/02/19 19:21, s8evq wrote: Could we agree that club=youth does have a meaningful usage, despite what the wiki currently states? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:club +1 .. also the same comment on club=elderly. These clubs can have a variety of 'interests' to suit there age grou

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-02 Thread Warin
On 03/02/19 10:54, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2019 at 22:57, Tom Pfeifer > wrote: A club, being an association between people, is not a geographical entity. Thus I prefer tagging the physical entity, which is the club home, with

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-02 Thread marc marc
Le 02.02.19 à 13:56, Tom Pfeifer a écrit : > On 02.02.2019 09:21, s8evq wrote: >> Thank you for your input. I'm glad there are other examples of youth >> organisation that are clearly different from Scouts. >> >> Could we agree that club=youth does have a meaningful usage, despite >> what the wik

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 2 Feb 2019 at 22:57, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > A club, being an association between people, is not a geographical entity. > > Thus I prefer tagging the physical entity, which is the club home, with > amenity=community_centre > Not disagreeing Tom, but at least in our area, community centres

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/02/2019 14:11, Paul Allen wrote: My guess is because OSM was started by somebody in the UK; OSM is (supposedly) based upon British English usage; the UK has scouts but not Chiro or KSA.  OSM has scouts because back in the early days we wanted to map scouts but had no need to map Chiro.

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-02 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 2 Feb 2019 at 14:00, s8evq wrote: > > How would you then tag the building and field where Chiro, KSA or > Australian Air Force Cadets youth groups gather weekly. club=??? > > In other words: why does the Scouts movement have it's own club= value? > While, in my opinion, scout is not a ge

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-02 Thread s8evq
On Sat, 2 Feb 2019 13:56:03 +0100, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > A club, being an association between people, is not a geographical entity. That's clear, I can agree with that. > Thus I prefer tagging the physical entity, which is the club home, with > amenity=community_centre > where you can specify

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-02 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 02.02.2019 09:21, s8evq wrote: Thank you for your input. I'm glad there are other examples of youth organisation that are clearly different from Scouts. Could we agree that club=youth does have a meaningful usage, despite what the wiki currently states? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/K

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-02-02 Thread s8evq
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 08:12:28 +1000, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 13:57, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 31/01/19 13:02, John Willis via Tagging wrote: > > club=youth > > youth=* > > > > Slightly different, but also related ... > > Both my sons went through

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-01-31 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 13:57, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 31/01/19 13:02, John Willis via Tagging wrote: > > On Jan 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > There are, or were 'cubs' for the younger people, 'rovers' for the older > people, guides for the girls

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-01-30 Thread Warin
On 31/01/19 13:02, John Willis via Tagging wrote: On Jan 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: There are, or were 'cubs' for the younger people, 'rovers' for the older people, guides for the girls yea - Brownies, Wheblos, Venture s

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-01-30 Thread John Willis via Tagging
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > There are, or were 'cubs' for the younger people, 'rovers' for the older > people, guides for the girls yea - Brownies, Wheblos, Venture scouts, etc. There are tons of them just for Boy & Girl scouts. the entire

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-01-30 Thread Warin
On 31/01/19 11:33, John Willis via Tagging wrote: On Jan 31, 2019, at 8:15 AM, marc marc > wrote: Scouts and scout do maybe not have the same meaning in belgium. I understand club=scout (without a ending S and without an upercase) as the "generic" term for any

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-01-30 Thread John Willis via Tagging
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 8:15 AM, marc marc wrote: > > Scouts and scout do maybe not have the same meaning in belgium. > I understand club=scout (without a ending S and without an upercase) > as the "generic" term for any scout-like club +1 Similar to how brand names become the name for things (

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-01-30 Thread marc marc
Le 30.01.19 à 23:02, Warin a écrit : > On 31/01/19 08:41, s8evq wrote: >> I'm a relative new contributor welcome. >> "club=scout" and "club=youth". >> What about similar organisations than Scouts? This might not exists as >> much in other countries, but here in Belgium we have KSA, KLJ, Chiro >

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-01-30 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 30.01.2019 22:41, s8evq wrote: 2) According to the wiki there's also club=youth, but it's not used and amenity=community_centre should be used instead. Reading the wiki on amenity=community_centre (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcommunity_centre#Differentiation): "When t

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-01-30 Thread Warin
On 31/01/19 08:41, s8evq wrote: Hello everyone, I'm a relative new contributor and have a question about tagging "club=scout" and "club=youth". What about similar organisations than Scouts? This might not exists as much in other countries, but here in Belgium we have KSA, KLJ, Chiro and Scou

[Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

2019-01-30 Thread s8evq
Hello everyone, I'm a relative new contributor and have a question about tagging "club=scout" and "club=youth". What about similar organisations than Scouts? This might not exists as much in other countries, but here in Belgium we have KSA, KLJ, Chiro and Scouts (and a whole bunch more). Thes