Re: [Tagging] charging stations

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 11:27, patata wrote: > > Either if the charging station has an attached cable or not, its > connector is always female. The male is always on the car, or on the > cable we carry with us. So tagging male/female wouldn't work. > For some definitions of "male" and "female."

[Tagging] charging stations

My car has a type 1 connector, and I carry a cable type1 to type2. I look for a charging station with a socket:type2 but instead of a socket it has an uncompatible type2_cable because this tag is not available yet. length=? I'm not sure how to measure this in case it's a spiral, and I don't see ho

Re: [Tagging] charging stations

On 15/6/20 10:26 pm, Paul Allen wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 10:29, Johannes Werner via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: cable=yes/no/length seems like a great idea. It does however not solve OPs problem that a cable is not a socket. However, a cable at a charging s

Re: [Tagging] charging stations

I agree that we should use the KISS principle, and keep it as simple as possible -- just specify the connector specification type (i.e. a drop-down choice) -- CCS 1.0, CCS 2.0, CHAdeMO, GB/T, Tesla v1, Tesla v2, etc. I think the tag value should include the version number. In theory if a location

Re: [Tagging] charging stations

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 10:29, Johannes Werner via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > cable=yes/no/length seems like a great idea. It does however not solve OPs > problem that a cable is not a socket. > However, a cable at a charging station will have a connector at the free end. The

Re: [Tagging] charging stations

Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:02:17 +1000 From: Warin Where a cable exists (is present) then why not tag : cable=yes/no/ length (in metres)  ??? Cables would be wired in to prevent theft? On one one OSM entry there should be one connector with any required cable tag (and voltage/amperage etc)? c

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations

On 15/6/20 1:37 am, patata wrote: Currently socket:type1 and socket:type2 are not clarifying if the station has a cable or we must bring our own. Since the connector is not necessarily a socket, Agreed. it is being discussed on our telegram group https://t.me/openchargemap to change all socke

[Tagging] Charging stations

Currently socket:type1 and socket:type2 are not clarifying if the station has a cable or we must bring our own. Since the connector is not necessarily a socket, it is being discussed on our telegram group https://t.me/openchargemap to change all sockets into connector. Only add socket or cable wher

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

On 31.07.19 09:34, Warin wrote: > There is no present default unit for power - see > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features/Units#Default_units > Adding a default would be good Why would it be good to add a default value? I believe explicit units are generally preferable because they av

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

On 31/07/19 20:28, Paul Allen wrote: On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 08:35, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: Err the wiki could state the default is kW. There is no present default unit for power - see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features/Units

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 08:35, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Err the wiki could state the default is kW. > There is no present default unit for power - see > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features/Units#Default_units > Adding a default would be good, and kW is probably the most

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

On 31/07/19 01:39, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: The tag socket::output has been used 5000 times, so I think it's best to describe existing usage on the wiki. The current usage is to tag the units, which are almost always kW: socket:type2:output has been used 3663 times, and the majority (>70%) are ta

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

On 7/30/19 2:59 AM, Warin wrote: On 30/07/19 12:38, brad wrote: I don't have an opinion about kw or w, but if the value is only a number, then to prevent confusion and reduce mistagging the key should specify, output-kw=22 . OSM typically places unit after the value. For examples see https:/

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

The tag socket::output has been used 5000 times, so I think it's best to describe existing usage on the wiki. The current usage is to tag the units, which are almost always kW: socket:type2:output has been used 3663 times, and the majority (>70%) are tagged with 22kW, 22 kW, 43kW and 11 kW - they

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

OSM typically places unit after the value. For examples see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features/Units#Explicit_specifications In Some cases the unit is omitted and a default is assumed. Would this default be "kW" in this case? ___ Tag

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

On 30/07/19 12:38, brad wrote: I don't have an opinion about kw or w, but if the value is only a number, then to prevent confusion and reduce mistagging the key should specify, output-kw=22 . OSM typically places unit after the value. For examples see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_F

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

All electric charging station that i have ever encounter are in "kW" not in watt (ex: 3 kW, 50 kW, 120 kW, 175 kW...). To me, it is the same as the maxspeed tag, we don't put it in m/h but in km/h -> we use the common unit as everyone use it. Thus we don't use the SI value everywhere and that seem

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

I don't have an opinion about kw or w, but if the value is only a number, then to prevent confusion and reduce mistagging the key should specify, output-kw=22 . On 7/29/19 5:00 AM, dktue wrote: I'd vote for kW aswell (and a value of "22" then), since we're not always using SI and not always b

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

The use of 'multipliers' is common .. As well as kilometers per hour (100 kmh would be come 100,000 mh without the multiplier) there is mass kg and tonnes .. (10kg would be come 10,000 g with the multiplier) , elevation in meters and kilometers etc. Preference should be for what is commonly u

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

I'd vote for kW aswell (and a value of "22" then), since we're not always using SI and not always base-unit-values (see kilometers per hour). Am 29.07.2019 um 12:53 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am Mo., 29. Juli 2019 um 12:39 Uhr schrieb dktue >: Hello,

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

Am Mo., 29. Juli 2019 um 12:39 Uhr schrieb dktue : > Hello, > > the OSM-Wiki-page on charging stations [1] defines the tag > socket::output=watt > > wheres the examples contain values like "22 kW". > > What would the preferred format be? "22000" or "22 kW"? I would like to > clearify this on the w

[Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

Hello, the OSM-Wiki-page on charging stations [1] defines the tag socket::output=watt wheres the examples contain values like "22 kW". What would the preferred format be? "22000" or "22 kW"? I would like to clearify this on the wiki-page. Personally I would prefer "22000" as it fits with o

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations for commercial vehicles etc

sent from a phone > On 8. Apr 2018, at 16:04, Tijmen Stam wrote: > > I myself are for a subset of amenity=charging_station / bus=yes / > access=private > > However, the is a misnomer, as there is no "socket" like the > common Tesla and ChaDeMo types. > > Any suggestions? I’m not sure I’

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations for commercial vehicles etc

On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 16:04:33 +0200 Tijmen Stam wrote: > Any suggestions? I am tempted to tag it as man_made=charging_station, but maybe amenity=charging_station + access=* is really better. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lis

[Tagging] Charging stations for commercial vehicles etc

For cars there is amenity=charging_station that allow one to plug in a cable. But in the Netherlands (and other places in Europe) there are now charging stations for buses that are so specific that they will probably not be used by vehicles other than the operator's, but maybe soon there will

[Tagging] charging stations: CCS socket wiki conflict

Howdy, on charging stations we distinguish between socket types like Type1, Type2, Chademo etc. But currently the english wiki version differs from the german one on tagging the CCS (combined charging system) socks. The english version uses socket:type2 and socket:type2_combo (CCS) to character