Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

On 16-Jan-17 07:36 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 15 Jan 2017, at 22:26, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: "Unprocessed wood"? What does that mean? Trees or parts of trees cut down ... with nothing else done to them? Around we go... Do

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

sent from a phone > On 15 Jan 2017, at 22:26, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Macquarie Dictionary (Australian) has 10 definitions of 'timber' ... chose > the most appropriate for use in this situation. they are behind a paywall so I can't read these 10 definitions. Looking at the

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

sent from a phone > On 15 Jan 2017, at 22:26, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > "Unprocessed wood"? What does that mean? Trees or parts of trees cut down ... > with nothing else done to them? Around we go... Do you have a better > definition that suits this application? I'd say this

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

On 16-Jan-17 07:28 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 15 Jan 2017, at 20:56, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: produce=timber, if defined as cut down trees and cut up parts of trees, let's stick to British English definitions, according to WP this definition you give is

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sent from a phone > On 15 Jan 2017, at 20:56, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > produce=timber, if defined as cut down trees and cut up parts of trees, let's stick to British English definitions, according to WP this definition you give is for US and Canada only. Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

On 15-Jan-17 07:54 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 14 Jan 2017, at 21:29, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: How does a mapper know what the end product will be? +1, so we shouldn't map it (well, unless we are sure of course) If the produce tag is generic enough you

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sent from a phone > On 14 Jan 2017, at 21:29, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > How does a mapper know what the end product will be? +1, so we shouldn't map it (well, unless we are sure of course) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetm

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sent from a phone > On 14 Jan 2017, at 21:29, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wheat coming out of a farmers field is also non specific, the wheat could be > used to make bread, a cake etc. wheat is specific insofar as it doesn't mean hay or straw for example. That's also a subtle d

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The word 'timber' is commonly used by loggers just before a tree is felled as a warning. While some only use it for sawn wood, the word has more meanings that can be used. To me 'timber' here is the cut down tree coming out of the forest, not specific. Wheat coming out of a farmers field is a

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Here's a clarification from an American: In U.S. English, timber is a term meaning "standing trees". It does not indicate or specify any particular end use although such trees as you would find in a "stand of timber" are probably destined for lumber. Timber, once cut and sawn into boards or beams,

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sent from a phone > On 13 Jan 2017, at 22:44, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > tag: produce=timber description: Trees harvested for timber, called 'lumber' > in north America. Further processing results in sawn wood, wood chips, paper. wood chips and paper are excluded by timber thou

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On 13-Jan-17 06:58 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 13 Jan 2017, at 00:01, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: I have added some wikipedia links to the forestry table. I am not a big fan of wikipedia links for definitions of tags, because wp pages change, and have a dif

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sent from a phone > On 13 Jan 2017, at 00:01, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have added some wikipedia links to the forestry table. I am not a big fan of wikipedia links for definitions of tags, because wp pages change, and have a different scope. Better copy those parts from the

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Note! The usage rates are extremely low in taginfo for produce! However this is the time to organise them before they grow to a number that is hard to change. I have added some wikipedia links to the forestry table. Reformatted my response below so it fits a smaller screen, sorry about that.

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

On 13-Jan-17 08:11 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: The big problem with tagging which crops are grown in fields is that they are generally rotated, a field that grew wheat in 2016 will have something else in 2017. Crops are rotated to prevent disease, so it is tagging that will rapidly become stale. U

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The big problem with tagging which crops are grown in fields is that they are generally rotated, a field that grew wheat in 2016 will have something else in 2017. Crops are rotated to prevent disease, so it is tagging that will rapidly become stale. Best avoided IMHO. Just stick with farmland=ara

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Most of these values come from taginfo but in, I hope, a more organised form. The exceptions? Forestry - most of these are new additions - timber, oils and maple syrup. Cork was in taginfo and I had not thought of it, possibly it might be tagged an 'orchard'? Not checked. This is a 'new' area

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

I think Warin has put there values from taginfo, right? Yves Le 12 janvier 2017 12:10:40 GMT+01:00, Tom Pfeifer a écrit : >On 12.01.2017 02:19, Warin wrote: > >> So I have added 3 tables to the wiki produce page; aquaculture, farm >and >> forestry. > >I see no problem with defining these valu

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

On 12.01.2017 02:19, Warin wrote: So I have added 3 tables to the wiki produce page; aquaculture, farm and forestry. I see no problem with defining these values. (hm, corn is AmE and should be maize for clarity and BrE). Question remains if there is a need to proactively add so many values to

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

On 12-Jan-17 04:45 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: I thought that someone told me it has to be something like crop=tomato (for fields) produce=tomato is also correct. There are things called 'produce markets' where fresh produce is sold. Humm looks like the term 'Farmers Market' is more popular. Wikiped

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I thought that someone told me it has to be something like crop=tomato (for fields) produce=milk (some human intervention) product=handbag (a lot of human/machine handling) but I'll admit that there are a lot of grey/gray areas (what is a lot ?). But that's life, nothing is just black and white.

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

On 12-Jan-17 03:22 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: I thought crop was for farmland, produce for factories in case of "natural" products such as dairy related goods. and product for factories in case of more man made products such as hifi, cars, etc. m Note the 'ce' on the end of 'produce' compared to th

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

I thought crop was for farmland, produce for factories in case of "natural" products such as dairy related goods. and product for factories in case of more man made products such as hifi, cars, etc. m On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Following on fro

[Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

Hi, Following on from landuse=grass .. I have been looking at appropriate tags for those areas used to actually produce grass ... or sod .. or turf as 2 other words. From the wiki I first got crop .. which suits. Further searching got produce which also suits. I then looked at the usage - c