I thought that someone told me it has to be something like crop=tomato (for fields) produce=milk (some human intervention) product=handbag (a lot of human/machine handling)
but I'll admit that there are a lot of grey/gray areas (what is a lot ?). But that's life, nothing is just black and white. m. On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:17 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12-Jan-17 03:22 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > > I thought crop was for farmland, produce for factories in case of > "natural" products such as dairy related goods. and product for > factories in case of more man made products such as hifi, cars, etc. > > m > > > Note the 'ce' on the end of 'produce' compared to the 't' on the end of > 'product' ... sorry about how close they are. > > Dictionary definition of produce; > > Agricultural and other natural products collectively > > ------------------- > As such it includes 'crop' type things. > > Crops are not animals .. like beef, fish. But fish and beef are both > produce, hence produce is a wider definition, includes more things. > > The difference between produce and product .. is difficult! > > A product I take to be something that has been modified from its natural > state .. > Crocodile, defiantly a produce, changed to a handbag is, as a handbag, > defiantly a product. > Shelled peanuts have had some work on them .. is that amount of work enough > to change them from a produce to a product? Flip a coin. > If the shelled peanuts are sugar coated then they are, to me, a product. > > > > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Following on from landuse=grass .. I have been looking at appropriate tags > for those areas used to actually produce grass ... or sod .. or turf as 2 > other words. > > > From the wiki I first got crop .. which suits. Further searching got produce > which also suits. I then looked at the usage - crop wins, and then the > values ...product looks much more diverse .. thinking abut it .. produce > encompass crops. I think the reason why crops is winning over mappers is the > wiki page documentation .. > > > So I have added 3 tables to the wiki produce page; aquaculture, farm and > forestry. > > Some of these are present values from both produce and crop usage. > > I have tried to organise the farm entries into major groups - flowers and > beans all together for example. There may be others that can be usefully > combined too. > > See what you think ... these are all additions. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:produce > > > Changes to the produce page ... > Shop I have added the comment that these sell things .. they don't produce. > They may sell farm produce .. but they still don't produce it themselves. > > I have also tried to make the difference between produce and product clearer > .. though the division will all ways be a little fuzzy. > > > ------------------------- > > On 'my' 'grass' which is where I started .. with the assistance of the GB > list, who should have some expertise with UK English, I have decided on > 'turf' as the best value .. and to use it under the key 'produce' with > landuse=farmland. This leaves the abused 'landuse=grass' alone .. I hope it > gets deleted and the appropriate features get move over to landcover=grass. > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging