Re: [Tagging] Default access permission for indoor=area

On 16/10/24 01:29, Michael Tsang wrote: Hi all, I am now working on improving navigation inside train stations, and encountered a case where I need to route over indoor=area. I have submitted a pull request into OpenTripPlanner https://github.com/opentripplanner/OpenTripPlanner/pull/6119 ,

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: [RFC] Feature proposal - amenity=lounge

On 15/10/24 00:12, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I think it would be covered also by this proposal, at least when you think about "lounges" at the airport or trainstations, while "lounges" in dancing clubs and similar not so much: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Waiting_area A "w

Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

On 10/9/24 20:46, Marc_marc via Tagging wrote: Le 09.09.24 à 10:51, Warin a écrit : For a traffic sign "maxweight x tons except for bus"' situation the wiki is, for once, fairly clear maxweight=x (where x is the relevant number with any units applicable) maxweight:conditional=

Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

- From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Sent: lunedì 9 settembre 2024 10:51 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus In my country the signs specify the maximum weight that is permitted on the way (usually a

Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

On 9/9/24 19:39, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mo., 9. Sept. 2024 um 10:55 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: It has nothing to do with the vehicle specification. The sign is there to stop the destruction of the way through overloading the structure, thus an unlo

Re: [Tagging] maxweight : x tons exept for bus

On 9/9/24 16:58, Alberto Nogaro via Tagging wrote: I somehow doubt that the traffic sign specifies the maximum actual weight, most likely it sets the maximum permitted weight of the vehicle at full load, as specified by the manufacturer. In my country the signs specify the maximum weight that

Re: [Tagging] Two way street, but entry of motor vehicles blocked at one end. Relation correct? Tagging correct?

On 22/5/24 01:19, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Di., 21. Mai 2024 um 15:01 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging : In such case I would typically place such tags on a short section (meter or two) of way near end where such restriction is applied. the restriction is not ap

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a campground drop box for payment of camping or parking fees?

On 23/5/24 09:58, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: What's a good way to tag a payment drop box, of the type used in the USA for campgrounds? You typically put money in an envelope, tear of a tab, and dop the payment into a metal tube slot. In addition to cash payments payment by credit card should be c

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

On 3/5/24 16:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2024 at 21:21, bkil +a...@gmail.com> wrote: Yes, that would be even better. sells:bread=wholemeal:x;y;wholemeal:z But if you're selling ="white variety-a", "wholemeal variety-a", "multi-grain variety-a", "gl

Re: [Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

Horses are good at handling various obstacles. If you can find a local 'horse trial' go along and look. Yes it is a competition... But I don't map them as they are usually on private property. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org htt

Re: [Tagging] Highway classification in Antarctica

On 26/4/24 03:40, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Apr 25, 2024, 16:16 by fernando.treb...@gmail.com: I also think that such changes also imply corrections to the following section regarding how importance is to be assessed by mappers: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key

Re: [Tagging] Highway classification in Antarctica

The problem is 'tagging for the render', people see this large blank area and cannot see what they are looking for because the render will not show such a low importance feature. This also occurs in other areas where there is sparse populations. The people who make and maintain renders occupy

Re: [Tagging] clootie trees/ rag trees

On 4/3/24 07:48, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging wrote: Hello there, does anyone have any opinions about how to map what is called clootie/ cloughtie/ cloutie trees in Scotland and rag trees or raggedy bushes in Ireland? There are things like 'Fairy Bridge on the Isle of Man ' mapped a

Re: [Tagging] tagging "loose" paving stones

On 18/2/24 05:52, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging wrote: Judging from those photographs, they would be material=sett, but the surface is not the same, as I said, the stones have some room to wiggle, there is no filler in between the stones. On 17/02/2024 18:41, Yves via Tagging wrote: Su

[Tagging] airport taqs

Hi Typically on an airport the planes parking position is marked by a small circle, the is usually tagged with aeroway=parking_position - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Dparking_position. I believe this should only be a node, not a way. Some have mapped the planes path lead

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Documenting feet as an an optional elevation unit

On 29/1/24 06:30, Philip Barnes wrote: The legal definition of a foot is of course  0.348 m. "Since an international agreement in 1959, the foot is defined as equal to exactly 0.3048 metres'. Phil (trigpoint) NPL has a nice history on length measurement http://resource.npl.co.uk/docs/edu

Re: [Tagging] shops for display

On 21/11/23 06:56, Anne-Karoline Distel wrote: have the windows covered in decals to advertise that they have moved or to advertise local sights or whatever. In the above case move the shop data to the new location and then add shop=vacant to this previous location. This would stop map us

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Use description instead of name for route relations

On 22/10/23 19:56, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 20 Oct 2023, at 10:23, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: maybe just removing this bad advise without proposal would be a good idea +1 ___ Issue: that wording is in the app

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Use description instead of name for route relations

On 20/10/23 10:32, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 2:31 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 17/10/23 23:22, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 4:51 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 17/10/23 04:17, Paul J

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Use description instead of name for route relations

On 18/10/23 19:15, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Oct 18, 2023, 09:30 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: On 17/10/23 23:22, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 4:51 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 17/10/23 04:17, Paul Johnson wrote: Pre

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Use description instead of name for route relations

On 17/10/23 23:22, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 4:51 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 17/10/23 04:17, Paul Johnson wrote: Presently, it's common for route relations to have names that violate "name is only the name" and "

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Use description instead of name for route relations

On 17/10/23 04:17, Paul Johnson wrote: Presently, it's common for route relations to have names that violate "name is only the name" and "name is not ref" and "name is not description" rules for name=* tags. I don't find it common in 'my area' of mapping. One or two examples would demonstra

Re: [Tagging] Postal verses locational addresses

On 14/9/23 04:50, Marc_marc wrote: Le 13.09.23 à 19:21, Jez Nicholson a écrit : OSM addresses are physical, 'locational' addresses ok it is the anomalous postal addresses that need to have their own schemeif at all. some mapper in France are using contact:* for that (and also some con

Re: [Tagging] Postal verses locational addresses

On 12/9/23 03:57, Greg Troxel wrote: The fundamental issue is that there are postal addresses and what might be called "civil addresses" or "physical addresses" ('locational' I understand but is not normal English usage). I could not think of a better descriptive 'word' for what I wanted to ex

[Tagging] Postal verses locational addresses

HI, I am coming across cases of OSM entered addresses on buildings that are some kilometers from the nominated address location. These appear to be 'gated communities', 'retirement villages' and possibly other things that use some official address and thus keep deliveries from going to the ac

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

On 9/9/23 17:31, Volker Schmidt wrote: Be careful: oneway=* is a legal access tag, only valid for vehicles, not for pedestrians. Some pedestrian barriers are 'oneway' .. for example turnstiles at train stations where the turnstile only allows travel if a card/ticket is produced. I know of

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

On 8/8/23 04:32, Marc_marc wrote: Hello, Le 06.08.23 à 21:18, NickKatchur via Tagging a écrit : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Cell_reception I'm a bit amused, or rather disappointed, to read comments like "it's complicated to estimate the number of reception bars because it de

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

On 7/8/23 07:20, Timothy Noname wrote: I thinks it's definitely valuable to map areas where there is no coverage at all as it's a safety issue For safety sake it is best to assume there will be no cell phone coverage. The battery could go flat, the phone could be lost, drowned or damaged.

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-GB] Fords and how to provide information to help with routing apps

On 5/7/23 03:38, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Jul 4, 2023, 17:05 by tagging@openstreetmap.org: On Tue, Jul 04, 2023 at 03:14:47PM +0100, Ian Dent wrote: Previously it was tagged as ford=impassable but this isn't a valid value and On reflection, that doesn't

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On 27/6/23 18:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 26 Jun 2023, at 20:50, Minh Nguyen wrote: For what it's worth, the Sporting Goods Retailers subindustry in NAICS includes "gun shops". what’s the category for multi role combat aircraft or heavy battletanks? NATO had a

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

On 21/6/23 09:50, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 22:11, Greg Troxel wrote:   an air rifle is not a firearm, in English, because there is no   combustion Unfortunately, in Australia at least, air rifles are actually officially classed as firearms! :-( NSW le

[Tagging] duplicate road routes one named the other referenced

Hi, I came across a duplicate of a road route. Both have the same number of members. One has the name, the other has the reference. I delete one placing the relevant tags on the other. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/540719 https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/540719https://www.ope

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

On 10/6/23 00:13, Anne-Karoline Distel wrote: That's what I mean, tourist busses.  I see now that there is a tag (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tourist_bus), but my point is that it should also be rendered with a bus/ coach symbol. Also, they are often seasonal, at least in Ireland, so

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bbq without grill/grate ?

On 24/2/23 00:09, Matija Nalis wrote: Recently, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:grate has been documented with some 232 uses, to map whether `leisure=firepit` and `amenity=bbq` have a grate (AKA cooking grate / grill / cooking grid). While it might be useful for `leisure=firepit`, I do

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

On 9/6/23 20:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 9 Jun 2023, at 12:04, Greg Troxel wrote: I can't find it either. I remembered that JOSM presets have a lot more detail than the wiki. But I checked, and I don't see anything about "coaches" (which I think is the word in EU

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for

On 22/5/23 22:46, Marc_marc wrote: Le 15.05.23 à 18:47, ro...@onwheelsapp.com a écrit : Hi everyone, So if I understand correct most parking spaces are mapped as polygons? yes https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=parking_space I don't see the problem to add a width and length tag

Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.

On 23/5/23 04:00, Dave F via Tagging wrote: https://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpghttps://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpgHi I've a leisure=picnic_table but has an extended table top made of metal to accommodate disposable barbecues. Can anybody recommend a sub-tag that's more descriptive than barbecue=yes?

Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch

On 23/5/23 09:36, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 22:43, Marc_marc wrote: but what's the playing area ? Yep, good question, with no across-the-board answer! As you say, you can play tennis from "outside" the court, but in most ball games, if the ball (& sometimes

Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch

As a mapper I try to map the 'marked area', the marked lines used to create the court/pitch. This makes somewhat easier work for me and very objective. It also make it easy to map an area that has a tennis court, a basketball court and a netball court all co-located. The rendering of 3 re

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

On 19/5/23 21:20, Marc_marc wrote: Le 17.05.23 à 09:20, Warin a écrit : On 16/5/23 19:08, Marc_marc wrote: - some centres are not governmental (e.g. in Switzerland, mountain rescue is assigned to private companies such as Air Glacier) office=association ? it's a pretty poor conten

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

On 18/5/23 07:48, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2023 at 18:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: emergency=control_centre/administration ??? That was the plan! emergency=control_centre for the place where disaster / emergency responses are controlled / co-ordinate

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

On 16/5/23 19:00, Marc_marc wrote: Hello, Le 15.05.23 à 09:13, Warin a écrit : clear definition Possibly something like "Used to mark the office of an emergency organization,  where administration, planning and control is performed. add government somewhere in the def :) if not, th

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

On 16/5/23 19:08, Marc_marc wrote: Hello, Le 16.05.23 à 00:22, Graeme Fitzpatrick a écrit : suggestion of office=government + government=transportation + emergency=control_centre - there are 2 main keys (office and emergency), inevitably some objects will have only one of the 2 and this wil

Re: [Tagging] Area of young trees - saplings

On 17/5/23 00:38, Dave F via Tagging wrote: That appears to be for commercial purposes. According to the wiki. The proposal had no such limitation. I would use it. These samplings are 'out in the wild' planted in a publicly accessible field. Some plant nurseries are for use by the organiz

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

e third case use as a response base feels like emergency=ses_station. Sometimes there are facilities that do all three.  There is a federal facility in New England that is at least both 2&3 and surely they must do 1. Overall I think I'm agreeing with Warin

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

On 15/5/23 17:41, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 15 May 2023, at 09:18, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Tag it with office=government + government=emergency. " One of 'my' cases are "Fire Control Centres" where directions are giv

[Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

HI The tag government=emergency presently is undefined on the wiki which could lead to misuse. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Agovernment%3Demergency As I understand it this should only be used with office=government. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:government https://wik

Re: [Tagging] roof:shape=pitched imprecise value ?

On 21/4/23 05:58, Marc_marc wrote: Hello, is roof:shape=pitched an imprecise value ? I'm not a english naative but for me it could be : mono-pitech roof roof:shape=skillion duble-piteched roof roof:shape=gabled 'Pitched' is not among the 'normal' values on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w

Re: [Tagging] Tagging type of ownership of a road

On 14/4/23 08:14, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 at 03:06, Tod Fitch wrote: the toll roads in my area. They are, I believe, owned by a toll road authority Owned, or leased? Around here, toll roads & bridges are built by the Govt, using public funds, then the actua

Re: [Tagging] sport=inline_hockey a good value ?

Would not both roller and inline skate hockey sports be played on the same court? If so then sport=skate_hockey with skate=inline;roller Interesting that 'skate' has one organizing body https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Skate On 3/4/23 10:42, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 3 Ap

Re: [Tagging] Slate roof tiles

Slate in comparison to a rood tile is flat and not of a uniform dimension. Roof tiles can be made of terracotta, fired glazed clay or concrete- They are made to a uniform pattern that overlaps and keys in to the other tiles. On 11/3/23 10:49, Timothy Noname wrote: They overlap a lot, less t

Re: [Tagging] Rail replacement bus service

On 11/3/23 05:45, stevea wrote: On Mar 10, 2023, at 3:04 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: ...they can last for several years. In the case of Caltrain, they are an essentially-permanent feature of the train service, as passenger rail shutdowns (anticipated or not) happen "frequently enough" (n

Re: [Tagging] Rail replacement bus service

On 10/3/23 18:46, stevea wrote: A most excellent suggestion, hanser, and at first glance, a well-structured OSM thrust forward for this concept: I am enthusiastic. Please keep up this sort of good communication! Just yesterday I left off of our Caltrain wiki [1] the so-called "6-trains" on

Re: [Tagging] Combining "locked=yes" with various access tags

On 24/2/23 10:39, Greg Troxel wrote: Niels Elgaard Larsen writes: We have to accept that the tagging is never complete. And when surveying, it is often easier to tag "locked" than "access" (we can se the lock or try to open the gate but there are often no signs). So the tagging might reflect

Re: [Tagging] Combining "locked=yes" with various access tags

On 23/2/23 11:29, Andrew Harvey wrote: Actually thinking about this in the context of the scenario at https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/issues/2757#issuecomment-1435081431 I think we need a tagging solution to indicate that bicycle/foot may bypass the gate rather than having to travel

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=trailhead

On 23/2/23 21:18, Peter Elderson wrote: I would like to change the status of this established tag to approved. I have altered the previous proposal to match the established practice. No, it has not been 'approved' so it would

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - landcover proposal V2

On 19/2/23 06:00, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Feb 17, 2023, 11:03 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: On 16/2/23 21:11, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Feb 16, 2023, 10:18 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: landuse=meadow should delete the vegetation in the descripti

Re: [Tagging] dry swamps

On 19/2/23 10:23, Matija Nalis wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 21:08:17 +1100, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 17/2/23 12:13, Matija Nalis wrote: I see few options. If it happens more regularly, map as: - If it happens more regularly, map as: natural=wetland + intermittent=yes - i

Re: [Tagging] dry swamps

On 17/2/23 12:13, Matija Nalis wrote: On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 21:07:22 +1100, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: The ‘dry swamp’ has no apparent way to tag it. These will not be found in Europe, just as you don’t find deserts there. They have occasional water, not seasonal, not yearly bu

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - landcover proposal V2

On 16/2/23 21:11, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Feb 16, 2023, 10:18 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: landuse=meadow should delete the vegetation in the description leaving the use ... "Used to tag an area of land used for hay (meadow) or for grazing animals (pasture)." That would

Re: [Tagging] dry swamps

On 16/2/23 04:54, Greg Troxel wrote: Andrew Davidson writes: On 15/2/23 02:00, Greg Troxel wrote: For wetlands, the definitions in the US: https://www.fws.gov/media/classification-wetlands-and-deepwater-habitats-united-states Which is: In general terms, wetlands are lands where satur

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - landcover proposal V2

On 16/2/23 14:56, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Problem: there are 3+ tags for areas of mostly grass with sometimes overlapping meaning, in 2 different keys (landuse=meadow, natural=grassland, landuse=grass) You have forgotten at least one - landuse=farmland, crop=grass. However while landuse=mea

Re: [Tagging] dry swamps

On 14/2/23 08:12, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 at 10:07, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: The ‘dry swamp’ has no apparent way to tag it. Are they also known by some other name? I ask because I can find no papers about the phenomenon, by that name, on Google Scholar

Re: [Tagging] dry swamps

ve plant life. Another Australian link https://wetlandinfo.des.qld.gov.au/resources/static/pdf/resources/fact-sheets/profiles/new-profiles/29113-05-arid-swamps-web.pdf On Feb 11, 2023, at 2:07 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: The ‘dry swamp’ has no apparent way to tag it. T

Re: [Tagging] dry swamps

sent and future. Today, it is prudent to be forward-looking, even if tagging we might craft is only preparatory in nature. On Feb 12, 2023, at 1:04 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 12/2/23 11:13, stevea wrote: On Feb 11, 2023, at 3:53 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb

Re: [Tagging] dry swamps

On 12/2/23 11:13, stevea wrote: On Feb 11, 2023, at 3:53 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 at 05:10, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: A wetland is a land area that is saturated with water, either permanently or seasonally” But does "seasonally" include "maybe once every 20 years"

Re: [Tagging] dry swamps

7.01901.x> leaving the area." That sound similar to these 'flood defenses'? On Sat, 11 Feb 2023, 10:52 Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 11/2/23 21:23, Jez Nicholson wrote: I see what you are saying, but 'dry swamp' feels slightly odd. Is there

Re: [Tagging] dry swamps

dom. swamp = "An area of waterlogged forest, with dense vegetation." Not water logged most of the time, not a forest, and not dense vegetation mud = "Area covered with mud: water saturated fine grained soil without significant plant growth" Again not water saturated most o

[Tagging] dry swamps

The ‘dry swamp’ has no apparent way to tag it. These will not be found in Europe, just as you don’t find deserts there. They have occasional water, not seasonal, not yearly but, say, between 5 to 20 years they have water. As such they do not satisfy the OSM swamp definitions at all. See http

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

On 13/1/23 03:02, António Madeira wrote: The main issue is not closed water tanks. That can be a default in OSM. The issue here is how to inform that a storage_tank is open. Mind you that there is an infinitude of storage tanks types, but for firefighting, those are almost exclusively made in c

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate sport=cricket_nets

On 31/1/23 23:34, Illia Marchenko wrote: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: What do you mean by 'a sport'? The sport soccer, for example, could be taken as referring to the physical infrastructure - goads at either end, a rectangular playing field. Similar can be

Re: [Tagging] leisure=practice_pitch a bad idea because too overspecific for a main tag ?

On 31/1/23 04:34, Illia Marchenko wrote: Marc_marc : Hello, Le 30.01.23 à 16:24, Illia Marchenko a écrit : > leisure=practice_pitch is not suitable for full game. I had not seen that this tag was documented and in the history we already see the 2 opinions: when you see

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate sport=cricket_nets

On 31/1/23 00:54, Illia Marchenko wrote: Hello everyone, I suggest deprecating sport=cricket_nets on the wiki and recommend leisure=practice_pitch & sport=cricket as a replacement, since sport=* generally refers to a sport, not a physical infrastructure. Regards, Illia. What do you mean

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

no roads! Remote areas here with populations have extremely large tanks for drinking water... that can be used for fire fighting. Extremely large = at least a years water supply with no rain fall. Às 05:54 de 11/01/2023, Warin escreveu: On 10/1/23 03:49, António Madeira wrote: Greetings.

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

On 10/1/23 03:49, António Madeira wrote: Greetings. There are closed and open storage tanks, and I think is important to differentiate them, specially those used by firefighters and rural communities to fight wild fires. The approved proposal for the key covered=* states "C. denote an area s

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - yarn shops

On 5/1/23 11:19, Nate Wessel wrote: Hi all, I'm going to try to summarize some of my thoughts / findings on this issue thanks to all the helpful feedback here so far. I took a good look through (randomish sample) everything tagged shop=wool , and in partic

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - yarn shops

On 3/1/23 23:51, Philip Barnes wrote: Shops selling wool are commonly referred to as wool shops so why not shop=wool? Yarn doesn't seem very intuitive to me as a native English speaker. Phil (trigpoint) I think you need to contact a knitter? https://www.tangled-yarn.co.uk/ https://www.g

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - yarn shops

On 3/1/23 10:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mo., 2. Jan. 2023 um 18:17 Uhr schrieb Nate Wessel : Howdy y'all, I am proposing to make official a tag that is already in use to some degree, *shop=yarn*, for shops that primarily sell yarn and other knitting/crochet supplies.

[Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

Hi, It appears that route name are being applied to track/path names, I believe this comes about due to signs that state the route names and point along the track/path that appear to the name of the track/path. For example Way 228853104 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/228853104#map=15/37.8

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

On 9/10/22 19:55, Illia Marchenko wrote: I withdrew this proposal. Thanks for your feedback! Thanks for the effort. Something does need to be done.. but what is an acceptable solution? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://li

Re: [Tagging] Relations of type=site + tourism=camp_site

On 11/11/22 23:25, Casper Kersten wrote: Site relations are usually completely redundant if you just tag an operator=* tag. A tourism=camp_site closed way or multipolygon is, of course, a camp site, and a shop or parking area on or belonging to that camp site should get an operator=* tag with

Re: [Tagging] Relations of type=site + tourism=camp_site

On 10/11/22 22:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 10 Nov 2022, at 12:31, Yves via Tagging wrote: Site relations are often used to models thing that aren't spatially joined, like windfarms, universities... I can easily imagine it's reasonable to use them for campings in so

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On 6/12/22 21:51, Tom Pfeifer wrote: Still does not resolve my problem with a water rescue station where there is no boat. I don't see a requirement for a boat? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dlifeboat_station Specifically mentions other things like helicopters. B

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On 7/12/22 01:54, Marc_marc wrote: Le 06.12.22 à 00:47, Graeme Fitzpatrick a écrit : https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2022-November/066540.html Are there any further comments that anybody would like to raise? I have not issue with merging 3-4 tags with the same meaning but

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On 24/11/22 20:37, Nathan Case wrote: On 24/11/2022 09:07, Warin wrote: Some ships and boats don't move much... as they are part of museums ... Something that is part of a museum, and is genuinely permanently secured, seems very different to an emergency response vehicle (which a lif

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On 24/11/22 11:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 09:29, Andy Townsend wrote: Why not both? Because a boat is a mobile feature, that we don't / can't map? e.g https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?way=349559642#map=19/-27.42815/153.08582 - we don't try to map the last

Re: [Tagging] wheel baths for disinfection

On 21/11/22 12:54, Matija Nalis wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 08:58:29 +0800, Timeo Gut wrote: Wheel baths for disinfection are used to prevent the spread of diseases in agricultural areas. They're most often found at roads and tracks that go through plantations or farms but sometimes also at ad

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On 21/11/22 10:47, François Lacombe wrote: Good evening, Le dim. 20 nov. 2022 à 17:36, stevea a écrit : In fact, I can imagine a variety of tags that describe much (approaching or even achieving?) all of this: office=utility utility=water;sewer;garbage utility=accepts_paym

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On 20/11/22 10:49, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 18 Nov 2022, at 22:35, Mike Thompson wrote: In a nearby city to where I live, the city owned utility provides electricity, water, sewer, and internet. yes, it is also common in areas I know to have a single provider for

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On 15/11/22 12:16, Matija Nalis wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 17:00:42 +0100, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: Is this proposal functionally any different from the water outlet proposal?https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_outlet You mean the one that was cancelled because i

Re: [Tagging] amentiy=donation_centre?

On 14/11/22 22:41, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: maybe these can be seen as amenity=social_facility? _ Which "these"??? "These" I would not tag as amenity=social_facility; The charity shops here do not buy things, people come into the shop and donate things. The shops then sort

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On 13/11/22 03:00, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: Is this proposal functionally any different from the water outlet proposal? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_outlet There is a lot more to be done for something like this. It needs to incorporate all "man made sourc

Re: [Tagging] service vs. unclassified, conflicting definitions

On 1/10/22 21:08, Timeo Gut wrote: On 30 Sep 2022, at 23:48, grin via Tagging wrote: Take a pretty common road type in Europe, which goes on the embankment of a river, which generally paved, narrow, legally open for walking and bicycling people, often part of the national/international bi

Re: [Tagging] sport without pitch but club : ok or tagging mistake ?

On 30/6/21 05:59, bkil wrote: Could a native speaker perhaps rephrase my question so it is easier to understand? The club - map as an area (might be the whole building). Tag it for the club .. club=sport, sport=soccer, name=* etc The billiards as a node within the area of the

Re: [Tagging] sport without pitch but club : ok or tagging mistake ?

On 29/6/21 16:35, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 29 Jun 2021, at 01:52, bkil wrote: Could you please share an example of how you would tag a soccer club with a billiards table (access=customers) on a given floor inside a building way. Other parts of the building are used b

Re: [Tagging] sport without pitch but club : ok or tagging mistake ?

On 28/6/21 07:54, Tom Pfeifer wrote: I agree with Yves, the sport=* belongs where the sport is performed, not where the trophies are displayed and not where the thirst is quenched after the match. And I disagreed. The club=sport with sport=* details what sport the club is interested in. Ma

Re: [Tagging] service vs. unclassified, conflicting definitions

On 1/10/22 20:25, stevea wrote: Makes sense to me, too, Greg. I don't know if it helps or hinders wider understanding, but I understand what Greg is saying here, and while his perspective is "Eastern USA" (and mine is "Western USA"), these don't seem far apart or even different at all, and t

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On 10/10/22 21:36, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: In Australia it would be unusual to find a drinking fountain without a tap to stop the flow when a person is not drinking. I think it could be illegal such is the scarcity of water. Thus, I believe that a world wide default should be avoided in

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

On 10/11/22 14:19, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Another question! In a number of places e.g. https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1nBt the Rescue unit has two buildings - an admin base / radio room / lookout tower, usually overlooking the river mouth, together with a boatshed a bit further upriver e.g.

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

On 8/11/22 09:00, Tom Pfeifer wrote: On 07.11.2022 10:57, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Favoring emergency=marine_rescue seems sensible to me What about such stations on freshwater lakes and on rivers? Is "marine" fitting there? Not really. emergency=lifeboat_station implies

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