Re: [Tagging] Driving side

2014-03-23 Thread Michael Krämer
2014-03-23 2:37 GMT+01:00 John F. Eldredge : > Left-hand-driver cars are sometimes used in right-hand-drive countries, > and vice versa. So, changing cars at a national border where the driving > conventions differ is not mandatory in all cases. In fact, I have not > heard of any cases where it

Re: [Tagging] Related: Antarctic territories

2013-12-23 Thread Michael Krämer
First of all I think there is no really perfect solution to the problem. To me this is inherent to the dispute as different parties have a different view of what's right and wrong. So I think this conflict will show up in the data anyway. 2013/12/23 Fernando Trebien > Today, from a practical pe

Re: [Tagging] Related: Antarctic territories

2013-12-23 Thread Michael Krämer
Am 23.12.2013 11:56, schrieb Jonathan: I am not qualified to answer any of these questions as I've never got involved in editing boundaries in OSM however it does raise an interesting wider question, which is, how do we map all territories that are claimed by one country or another but not inter

Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Michael Krämer
Am 09.10.2013 19:13, schrieb Pieren: I agree with you but they are already in the database, e.g. the Alps: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2698607 In fact that's a pretty good example for me: I think the line is at least off by a few kilometers near the western part of the German

Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Michael Krämer
Am 09.10.2013 16:32, schrieb Pieren: On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Michael Krämer wrote: Another starting point could be the following (abandoned) proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Region and its discussion page. Bad idea. Replace "region" by &qu

Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Michael Krämer
2013/10/9 Martin Koppenhoefer > this is a topic discussed several times in precedence, you can find > discussions here and also on talk-de (your email suggests you understand > German). > > Another starting point could be the following (abandoned) proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relat

Re: [Tagging] pastry and confectionery

2013-06-06 Thread Michael Krämer
Hi Murry, thanks, but there's no need to apologize. I am aware that I've made some provocative statements myself. So I probably have to apologize, too. Basically I think we're on the same page: To my understanding we agree that there's a need to differentiate between the different kinds of baked

Re: [Tagging] pastry and confectionery

2013-06-05 Thread Michael Krämer
Hi Murry, being yet another German I'm afraid I still don't buy into the proposal. I guess this has a lot to do with both cultural and language differences. Also some background to start with. For many people in at least continental Europe bread is a basic food and a key component of the daily di

Re: [Tagging] Dispute concerning shrimp pond dikes

2013-01-19 Thread Michael Krämer
Hi Doug, Am 19.01.2013 16:44 schrieb "doug brown" : > The tags I used on these features are as follows: > > access = private > embankment = yes > highway = unclassified > man_made = dike > name = shrimp pond dike > > My reasoning being that all of the dikes have, at a minimum, a footpath on top of

Re: [Tagging] place=neighbourhood

2012-12-16 Thread Michael Krämer
Hi, 2012/12/17 A.Pirard.Papou > Have I, or rather JOSM, done anything wrong? > I don't think so, I think the problem is on OSMI's side. "place=neighbourhood" is a somewhat recent addition so it might not be in OSMI yet. > How can I improve ourselves and do better? > It looks like the place t

Re: [Tagging] Coastline around a bridge?

2012-10-03 Thread Michael Krämer
Am 03.10.2012 18:40 schrieb "Brad Neuhauser" : > > The Great Lakes in North America are freshwater lakes that are tagged as coastline. Which is to my understanding mostly due to historical reasons (not multipolygon at that time). There was some discussion about this recently on talk (if I remember

Re: [Tagging] name of river/admin area

2012-09-03 Thread Michael Krämer
Hi, Am 04.09.2012 03:22 schrieb "André Pirard" : > I think that names should be spelled the way people speak them so that the map reader can speak them too. > "le Wachiboux" (masculine) but "la Semois" and "la Meuse" (feminine). Well, this might depend on the local language. In German it's the sam

Re: [Tagging] Potale

2012-08-27 Thread Michael Krämer
Hello, 2012/8/28 André Pirard > ** > On 2012-08-26 11:41, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : > > 2012/8/26 Michael Krämer : > > How about historic=wayside_shrine? Unfortunately my French is rather > limited > so I basically could only look at the pictures in the Wikipedia. B

Re: [Tagging] Potale

2012-08-25 Thread Michael Krämer
How about historic=wayside_shrine? Unfortunately my French is rather limited so I basically could only look at the pictures in the Wikipedia. But this looked quite a bit like these "wayside shrines". Michael Am 26.08.2012 07:00 schrieb "André Pirard" : > ** > What is the tag for this?

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Michael Krämer
Hello, 2012/6/26 Janko Mihelić > I suggest a "fee_blue_flag=yes" tag which should be used in combination > with "leisure=beach_resort" or "leisure=marina". This could be useful for > easy searching of well equipped, maintained and clean beaches and marinas > for tourists. And it's a nice project

Re: [Tagging] proposing a page on the wiki: "tag names do not always correspond to their definitions"

2012-05-17 Thread Michael Krämer
Hi, Am 18.05.2012 07:30, schrieb Alan Mintz: The idea, taken in a vacuum without knowledge of personalities, seems correct. There are many more examples, like highway=* things that are not highways. I don't think we need a page for it, but it should be somewhere in beginners documentation that t

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-23 Thread Michael Krämer
Am 24. April 2012 00:56 schrieb Alex Barth : > - Any previous discussions or existing practices I should be reading up > on? Brasilia is not the only place where block names are used instead of > street names. To my knowledge, other examples are some parts of > Sofia/Bulgaria (I see street names h

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-23 Thread Michael Krämer
Am 23. April 2012 13:05 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer : > Am 22. April 2012 16:43 schrieb Jason Cunningham >: > > But saloon cars are no longer the 'standard' car, in the uk they've more > or > > less been replaced by hatchbacks & 4x4's. If we look at best selling > cars in > > the UK (and I assum

Re: [Tagging] Public land mapping

2012-02-26 Thread Michael Krämer
Hello, Am 25.02.2012 23:36, schrieb Shawn Michael: Specifically in the maps, I can easily see how to tag the green items on the maps, as those are National Forest Service lands. Although there is a bit of confusion here as well. Not all of the Forest Service lands are covered by forest. So I gue

Re: [Tagging] When should a name:* translation be used?

2012-01-31 Thread Michael Krämer
Hello, 2012/1/30 LM_1 : > Some cities/towns (especially those that are important for a long > time) have different names in different languages (here in Europe > almost every major and many minor towns). > If there is such a name, it should be added. Definetly - otherwise we would only have Praha

Re: [Tagging] Level and type of school (ISCED, public/private/charter)

2012-01-20 Thread Michael Krämer
Am 21.01.2012 00:53 schrieb "Andrew Harvey" : > In my region you could further mark if the private school is religious > or not and the type of religion, but I haven't actually done any > tagging like that. Recently there has been a discussion on the German list on how to tag religious schools. Mo

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-13 Thread Michael Krämer
What I asked is whether non-English speakers think permissive relates to needing a permit because they're more familiar with 'permit' than 'permission'. So in fact I did not get your question right. Sorry for the confusion. Michael ___ Tagging mailin

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-13 Thread Michael Krämer
> If you'd read what I was replying to, you'd see that I don't think > access=permit would be a valid change. Well, I in fact I did - being a non-native speaker I tried to answer the question you've asked. So either I missed some point or my answer has been ambigous. In case the latter is true I'

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-13 Thread Michael Krämer
> Permissive means that you have permission by default. Is 'permit' > better-known by non-English speakers than 'permission'? To me this would be something different: I would assume that a permit is some document expressing permission. For something tagged with access=permit I would assume you nee

Re: [Tagging] Health and other stories

2012-01-11 Thread Michael Krämer
> Anyway, this is partly just fussing about the mismatch between natural > language and a more formal language, I guess. Plus some fuzziness due to translation or non-native speakers trying to transfer terms of their native language into English. Added the fact that English often has two words whe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - entrance/door

2011-11-17 Thread Michael Krämer
Hi Andreas, I think the following comment should also be incorporated into the proposal: >> Also leaves seems to be in more common use than wings, so change: >> entrance:door:wings to entrance:door:leaves Regards, Michael ___ Tagging mailing list Ta

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=ridge

2011-11-08 Thread Michael Krämer
Hi Martin, 2011/11/8 Martin Koppenhoefer > Yes, that's unambigous, but what about this? > Thanks, that's what I tried . > 1 > http://www.rainerundclaudia.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/20090419-Mit-Julia-u.-Alex-am-Karlsruher-Grat-0232.jpg > 2 > http://alpinestock.com/grat_sareiserjoch_malbun_l

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=ridge

2011-11-08 Thread Michael Krämer
2011/11/8 Martin Koppenhoefer > I am not sure for the wording though. Isn't this an edge? Maybe I am > confused, because wikipedia "told" me that a ridge would be a natural > feature (your proposal doesn't give any definition what a ridge is) > occuring at a _chain of mountains_ (but in the osm w