Re: [Tagging] When is I oppse vote invalled

Sometimes people really votes for simular reasons ("this tag is used only * times"), that is against purpose of the proposal process (development and documenting of "the best practices"), approval of widely used tags is harmless, but give little benefits. Actually no way for nullification votes ag

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-GB] Fords and how to provide information to help with routing apps

Matija Nalis : > Relatedly, there are: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:intermittent > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:flood_prone > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:seasonal > > > which might be useful for such cases. > > -- > Opinions above are GNU-copylefted. > See al

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

But "freeway" is de facto equivalent of motorway, right? Regards, Illia. Brian M. Sperlongano : > > yes, but motorway is an exception because it is usually defined by signs >> rather than characteristics (e.g. if the signs are missing but it looks and >> feels like, we use motorroad=yes in some

Re: [Tagging] Adding 'flood' as value to the key 'hazard' (to be used in combination with the tag boundary=hazard)

Just see wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:hazard=flooding Regards, Illia. Cornelia Scholz via Tagging : > Hi all, > > Many thanks for the responses and feedback! :) Here a few comments: > > - The aim would be to collect information on historic floods and community > knowledge of hazard exposure.

Re: [Tagging] shop=gun shop=guns shop=weapons shop=firearms

As possible solution, *shop=weapon* with *sells=firearms;knives*. Regards, Illia. Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging : > OSM Wiki currently claims that > > shop=guns should be replaced by shop=weapons > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:shop%3Dweapons > > Tag:shop=firearms redirect

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 2 - Changing places and changing table

Hi, Robin! Please see wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=dressing_room Regards, Illia. 22 May 2023, 15:20 : > > > > > *Changing places* > > > > For the moment there is no tag for a changing place: > https://www.changing-places.org/ > > With the On wheels app we want to add > > > >- ame

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Approved - EV Charging Station Mapping

2 May 2023, 16:52 Marc_marc : > Le 02.05.23 à 14:21, NKA mapper a écrit : > > The EV Charging Station Mapping > > < > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:EV_Charging_Station_Mapping> > proposal is now approved > > > I really wonder how we can approve a proposal that makes it impossible >

Re: [Tagging] openGeoDB* discardable ?

As minimum, openGeoDB:auto_update=* (automatic updates not performed), openGeoDB:version=* (no sense outside of openGeoDB) and openGeoDB:layer=* (openGeoDB internal concept) may be dropped without information loss. 22 Apr 2023 г., 12:09 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>:

Re: [Tagging] Is tagging of fuel: assumed to be exhaustive?

Is it not too late to switch to fuel=* and drop fuel:*=*? Marc_marc : > Le 20.04.23 à 03:28, Matija Nalis a écrit : > > On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 00:47:21 +0200, Marc_marc > wrote: > >> Le 19.04.23 à 14:19, Matija Nalis a écrit : > >>> I think that my point remains that: > >>> - one method is clear an

Re: [Tagging] unicode in direction_* for guildepost to describe what it is related to, e.g. hiking

Presumably, sign contains symbols (hiker, bicycle and skate) and text. Graeme Fitzpatrick : > Is that actually on the sign? > > If not, it shouldn't be mapped. > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] Is tagging of fuel: assumed to be exhaustive?

Niels Elgaard Larsen : > For example if you use the template for restaurants and fast_food (but not > cafes for > some reason) in JOSM, you get a combobox where you can select one or more > values for > "cuisine". I would not assume that if I select indian or sushi that it > excludes asian. > The

Re: [Tagging] openGeoDB* discardable ?

Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging : > Given how many of them are (<20 000) I think that bot edit removing > them would be a good idea. > Are you suggesting removing all or just some of them? > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://list

Re: [Tagging] openGeoDB* discardable ?

Marc_marc : > Hello, > > the openGeoDB* tags were added during an import in 2008 [1] in europe > and according to the wiki [2], the osm data maj project is long dead > and was problematic. > years later we still have plenty of occurrences of tag cases > if we had to do it again, current good pract

Re: [Tagging] Tagging type of ownership of a road

Jens Glad Balchen via Tagging : > Thank you Timeo. > > It seems the designation tag was meant for something else, and only used > for this purpose in the Philippines. Do you think this usage would be > beneficial in other countries? > If the owner of the road can be inferred from its classificati

[Tagging] Status of clothes=motorcycle

One of the wiki editors (Rtfm) insists that the clothes=motorcycle tag has been deprecated in favor of motorcycle:clothes=yes. For me it's not. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/2499835 What do you think? Regards, Illia. ___ Tagging m

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

António Madeira : > IlMy problem with storage_tank=open is that it still has ambiguity. Open > where? On the top, on the side? Which side? This is very important in the > case of storage tanks destined to firefighters. > My question is: how to convey the critical information that a storage_tank >

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate sport=cricket_nets

чт, 2 февр. 2023 г., 14:51 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > > > > Feb 2, 2023, 12:09 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > > Again sport=soccer implies a rectangular playing field with goals at > either end - that is physical infrastructure. Without the playing field and > goals

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate sport=cricket_nets

Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > What do you mean by 'a sport'? > > The sport soccer, for example, could be taken as referring to the > physical infrastructure - goads at either end, a rectangular playing > field. Similar can be said of many OSM 'sports'. So I don't see that as > being a good argu

Re: [Tagging] leisure=practice_pitch a bad idea because too overspecific for a main tag ?

Marc_marc : > Hello, > > Le 30.01.23 à 16:24, Illia Marchenko a écrit : > > leisure=practice_pitch is not suitable for full game. > > I had not seen that this tag was documented and in the history > we already see the 2 opinions: > when you see an XYZ sports field,

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate sport=cricket_nets

пн, 30 янв. 2023 г., 18:23 Marc_marc : > Le 30.01.23 à 14:54, Illia Marchenko a écrit : > > recommend leisure=practice_pitch > > what's the diff with a leisure=pitch ? > leisure=practice_pitch is not suitable for fu

[Tagging] Deprecate sport=cricket_nets

Hello everyone, I suggest deprecating sport=cricket_nets on the wiki and recommend leisure=practice_pitch & sport=cricket as a replacement, since sport=* generally refers to a sport, not a physical infrastructure. Regards, Illia. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

António Madeira : > The main issue is not closed water tanks. That can be a default in OSM. > The issue here is how to inform that a storage_tank is open. > Mind you that there is an infinitude of storage tanks types, but for > firefighting, those are almost exclusively made in concrete and are op

Re: [Tagging] Private ambulance / patient transport service

Graeme Fitzpatrick : > A suggestion on the forum of amenity=training for the first-air training > side of things + a description of everything else. > Note that the proposal for amenity =training was rejected. wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/training Regards, Illia. >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

Thanks for the review! I replaced unisex=yes with unisex=only and unisex=separate, except for hairdressers, where unisex=yes is not a problem. Regards, Illia. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagg

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

Thanks for feedback! Marc_marc : > Le 17.12.22 à 21:58, Illia Marchenko a écrit : > > Gender proposal is ready for voting. After the previous vote, this > > proposal has been reworked. I plan to start voting in a few days. > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

Gender proposal is ready for voting. After the previous vote, this proposal has been reworked. I plan to start voting in a few days. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Gender ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.o

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

As alternative, I would suggest use either (i) street_vendor=* with values similar to values of the shop=*, for example amenity=street_vendor & street_vendor=snack; or (ii) made values of vending=* similar to values if the shop=*. пн, 7 нояб. 2022 г., 13:01 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

One tag is enough. I prefer emergency=lifeboat_station because "emergency" is a narrower key. вс, 6 нояб. 2022 г., 9:17 Graeme Fitzpatrick : > Some time ago, I raised a proposal for Marine Rescue stations: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Marine_rescue. > After a few weeks

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Rejected - Gender

Voting for Gender proposal has been stopped. During the voting process, some issues were raised, and the proposal needs to be improved. wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gender Ideas are welcome. Regards, Illia. ___ Tagging mailing list Taggin

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Gender

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Rejected - Training

Training proposal has been rejected. Thanks to everyone who participated and voted. Regards, Illia. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging standards [moved from osmf-talk]

вт, 25 окт. 2022 г., 0:59 Illia Marchenko : > Then so: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P. S. After https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging standards [moved from osmf-talk]

вт, 25 окт. 2022 г., 0:30 Asa Hundert : > Am Mo., 24. Okt. 2022 um 01:05 Uhr schrieb Illia Marchenko > : > > > > I suggest alternative solution: some machine readable spec, which > defines mapping between stable identifier and tags. For example (XML): > > > > &

Re: [Tagging] Tagging standards [moved from osmf-talk]

вс, 23 окт. 2022 г., 22:56 Tomas Straupis : > > As there have been incidents where widespread and basic tags have > been known and widely understood and still some inexperienced people > after several months of "practice" in OSM managed to push changes to > those with devastating effects still v

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Rejected - Privacy

Privacy proposal has been rejected. Thanks to everyone who participated and voted. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Privacy Regards, Illia. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] improve the proposal procedure

пт, 21 окт. 2022 г., 2:37 Frederik Ramm : > These people could use their free time to make one successful proposals > instead of five unsuccessful ones that waste everyone's time because > they are half-hearted. > Most of the rejected proposals are good written, but fundamentally broken. The OSM

Re: [Tagging] improve the proposal procedure

чт, 20 окт. 2022 г., 23:07 Marc_marc : > I wasn't talking about asking for control by the osmf, I was just > talking about using the same criteria of active contributors > to avoiding sock-people like last week : if you never map, if you > aren't an active contributor to the osm project, your prop

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - man made=evaporation tower

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/man_made%3Devaporation_tower чт, 20 окт. 2022 г., 22:25 Illia Marchenko : > Please give link :-) > > чт, 20 окт. 2022 г., 20:57 Kamil Kulawik : > >> Hi! >> >> Voting has started for evaporation towers tagging -

Re: [Tagging] Window tinting?

Maybe craft=window_construction? wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft=window_construction чт, 20 окт. 2022 г., 8:35 Graeme Fitzpatrick : > How do you tag businesses doing window tinting for either cars or building > windows? > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_film > > Some of the options see

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - man made=evaporation tower

Please give link :-) чт, 20 окт. 2022 г., 20:57 Kamil Kulawik : > Hi! > > Voting has started for evaporation towers tagging - > man_made=evaporation_tower. > > Please vote on the Wiki! > > - Coolawik > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pr

Re: [Tagging] improve the proposal procedure

чт, 20 окт. 2022 г., 15:44 Peter Elderson : > Proposing and voting should not be hard, so you always get some lesser > quality stuff. > For example, I will accept any constructive feedback for my proposal. But "it is lesser quality stuff" is very subjective. Any proposal are either good or bad. If

Re: [Tagging] improve the proposal procedure

I think that additional restrictions are unnecessary, unless proper reason. чт, 20 окт. 2022 г., 15:44 Peter Elderson : > I agree that it got a little out of hand, but there were some good > proposals and votes as well. > Proposing and voting should not be hard, so you always get some lesser > qu

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Rejected - Gender

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Gender

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pickup

сб, 15 окт. 2022 г., 18:36 Volker Schmidt : > amenity=parcel_locker is used 26k times. > amenity=vending_machine + vending_machine=pickup is use 16 k times and > deprecated > So why should we abandon amenity=parcel_locker and create a new key with > duplicate meaning . > I agree. amenity=parcel_l

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pickup

сб, 15 окт. 2022 г., 11:41 Volker Schmidt : > Around here we have many instances of self-service parcel-locker inside a > shop that is inside a building. The shop does not occupy the entire > building, the locker is only accessible during shop opening times. > > There are also pick-up points in sh

Re: [Tagging] camp sites in Haiti

I think that amenity=refugee_site & fixme=Review may be solution, it isn't the ideal, but are better then leave "as is". ср, 12 окт. 2022 г., 11:54 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > On 12/10/22 02:05, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > > Would it be possible to re-tag those refugee camps in an automate

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

вт, 11 окт. 2022 г., 11:48 Martin Koppenhoefer : > On the other hand, if you are looking for places to do sports, it is not > sufficient to look at leisure=pitch if you want to find all of them. > Of course. Hierarchical tagging. leisure = pitch & sport = *. > ___

Re: [Tagging] Better term for unisex

пн, 10 окт. 2022 г., 22:31 Marc_marc : > when a =yes tag has different characteristics, > it is easy to add values for the different characteristics > unisexx=segregated unisexx=not-segregated > and given the existence of 2 meanings according to the contributors, > the yes value will have to be do

Re: [Tagging] Better term for unisex

Term "unisex" is obvious for me (I am not a native English speaker), but in JOSM validator historically has been rule "replace female=yes & male=yes to unisex=yes". пн, 10 окт. 2022 г., 21:56 martianfreeloader : > Hi Amanda, > > No. > > What puzzles non-native speakers (including myself) is that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

Unification of tags allows more simple usage source data, e.g leisure = pitch allows rendering of all pitches, but lots of tags as leisure=tennis_court, leisure = baseball_playground, leisure = football_ground is more difficult to use. пн, 10 окт. 2022 г., 18:15 Marc_marc : > Le 09.10.22 à 09:37,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

вс, 9 окт. 2022 г., 9:50 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > On 8/10/22 20:49, Illia Marchenko wrote: > > Water outlets for public or customer use (generic tagging). > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Water_outlet > > Please dis

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Training

Voting has started for Training. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/training Voting has started for Training https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/training ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@opens

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Training

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

I withdrew this proposal. Thanks for your feedback! ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] not:brand:wikidata?

Prefix not:*=* used for prevention mistakes. In this context, wikidata entry from not:brand:wikidata=* in irrelevant. сб, 8 окт. 2022 г., 16:43 Dave F via Tagging : > Hi > > What is 'not:brand:wikidata'? > > There are 5000+ in the database. Can't see any wiki details. > I'm struggling to comprehe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

This proposal is response to long discussion about deprecation of man_made=drinking_fountain. This is unrelated to other proposals, either my own or resubmitted. сб, 8 окт. 2022 г., 14:05 Marc_marc : > Le 08.10.22 à 11:49, Illia Marchenko a écrit : > > Water outlets for public or cus

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Privacy

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

Water outlets for public or customer use (generic tagging). https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Water_outlet Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://list

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

Alternative to the sport=soccer is sport=british_football because "football" is context specific, and "American football", "Australian football", "Canadian football", "Gaelic football" exists. ср, 5 окт. 2022 г., 13:52 martianfreeloader : > There is a broad consensus that the language for OSM tag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Swimwear

> > Swimwear policy of the facility. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Swimwear Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinf

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

1) Yes, it is. 2) I don't know. Regards, Illia. вс, 2 окт. 2022 г., 20:40 martianfreeloader : > Hi, > > I'm unsure if I'm using correct terminology. I have come across these > terms in the OSM ecosystem: > > - primary feature [1] > - main key [2] > - primary key [3] > - feature tag [4] > > 1) Ar

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clothing

Clothing policy of the facility (old proposal, but renewed). https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Clothing Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.o

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

My apologies, unisex=segregated ср, 28 сент. 2022 г., 12:50 Illia Marchenko : > The normal meaning of the term unisex is "gender neutral", so unisex=mixed > sounds weird. > > ср, 28 сент. 2022 г., 10:39 Marc_marc : > >> Le 28.09.22 à 01:34, Illia Marchenko a écrit

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

The normal meaning of the term unisex is "gender neutral", so unisex=mixed sounds weird. ср, 28 сент. 2022 г., 10:39 Marc_marc : > Le 28.09.22 à 01:34, Illia Marchenko a écrit : > > gender=mixed/segregated has clear semantics. > > this shows that there is a nee

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

For example, gender segregated toilets: gender=segregated instead of female=yes & male=yes. Or unisex toilet: gender=mixed instead of unisex=yes. ср, 28 сент. 2022 г., 2:52 Sebastian Martin Dicke < sebastianmartindi...@gmx.de>: > It could be useful to give examples in which cases which tagging sc

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

This key can be used together with or instead of female=*, male=*, unisex=* or combinations thereof. The motivation is that the meaning of unisex=yes remains undefined, but gender=mixed/segregated has clear semantics. ср, 28 сент. 2022 г., 2:24 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gender

Gender destination of the facility. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Gender Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Training

Maybe also amenity=university, but this out of scope of this proposal. вт, 27 сент. 2022 г., 1:27 Graeme Fitzpatrick : > > On Tue, 27 Sept 2022 at 02:10, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> >> What about universities where future sailors/pilots are training >>

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Training

Training centers (reactivated proposal). https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/training Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Privacy

Property key privacy=stalls/partitions/communal_room/no that indicates whether shower or other feature offers a privacy or not. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Privacy Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.