[Tagging] Education reform - a minor change on my proposal

I have changed how buildings in the campus should be tagged. Yours, faithfully Erkin Alp ___ Tagging mailing l

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

No, that is highway=road. highway=unclassified is one grade above that. 26.12.2019 21:39 tarihinde yo paseopor yazdı: > > In a country like Zambia or Congo unclassified would be the worst > condition road you can find in that country (but not track), so only > local community people (or people wh

Re: [Tagging] Vegan "cheese" shops

shop=alternative_foods ? 18.12.2019 19:41 tarihinde marc marc yazdı: > indeed, but the product isn't a cheese, so fake_cheese ? > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging _

Re: [Tagging] Road hierarchy

Paved: service unpaved:track 4 Ağu 2019 Paz 11:47 tarihinde Tomas Straupis şunu yazdı: > 2019-08-04, sk, 11:32 Florian Lohoff rašė: > > Ok, so unclassified vs residential is regionally defined, as I wrote. > > But what about service/track? > > ___

Re: [Tagging] Test prep centres and cram schools as amenity=prep_school?

School=education is extraneous as a school implies an educational institution. If you looked at education reform proposal, you would see education=school. Cram schools are sufficiently different than academic schools that amenity=school will not fit. Yours, faithfully Erkin Alp ___

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

Service roads would be highway=service as it is now. road_level tag also solves non-primary motorway tagging (motorroad, autovia, non-expressway freeway, Polish S-road, Russian limited access A-road etc.). You would tag a non-primary motorway as highway=motorway road_level=. 25.02.2019 00:20 tari

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

It reminds me my road_level proposal for some reason. 24.02.2019 17:48 tarihinde djakk djakk yazdı: > ... furthermore, highway_level can be used to classify footway or > cycleway :) > > For example, in a park, some footway are “unclassified” (or > highway_level=5) and some are “primary” (or highwa

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "test preperation" / cram school / Juku (eg: Komon)

This is correct: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Education_Reform_Alternative ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "test preperation" / cram school / Juku (eg: Komon)

See: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Education_Reform_Alternative ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Printing company for newspapers

amenity=press anyone? Yours, faithfully Erkin Alp ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Can OSM become a geospacial database?

Do they not have grade eight roofers in the US? 7.12.2018 01:38 tarihinde Michael Patrick yazdı: > > great you name carpenters, because there were actually some > problems in the > past classifying people working with wood. ... Can you explain the > difference between a framer, a c

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Toll Gantry

Would enforcement=toll not be enough? 05-09-2018 20:48 tarihinde Jonathon McClung yazdı: > Hello OSM Tagging List! > > We at Kaart noticed a lot of unresolved discussions on the more and > more prevalent toll gantries that never really came to a head. We > considered some of the routing issues ca

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

Moreover, it is impossible in current API. 20-08-2018 10:45 tarihinde Mateusz Konieczny yazdı: > 18. Sierpień 2018 20:44 od djakk.dj...@gmail.com > : > > For such a subjective thing, it should be mapped by each > openstreetmap member : djakk maps this area as

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

OpenEmergencyMap? 06-08-2018 09:19 tarihinde Warin yazdı: > > I think it is 'plan a' that some committee comes up with. > Some times they work. > But what happens in a 'real emergency' may not reflect the plan (a, b, > c or etc) > > Best if the people on the ground don't panic and think. > If yo

Re: [Tagging] tagging religion-based access

islam=only. 29-06-2018 21:35 tarihinde Mateusz Konieczny yazdı: > I thought about it but it is not clear that it refers to access. Also, > it would cause problems > for anybody processing popular tags (like access) and not processing > very rare new tags > (muslim). > > For example > > amenity=pl

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag

09-06-2018 16:56 tarihinde Paul Allen yazdı: > > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > A 'benevolent dictator'. > > Let us know if you find one. > > > He's called Linus Torvalds.  Unfortunately, he's too busy with Linux

Re: [Tagging] new role for route relations: reverse

Because it is one-sided. 29-05-2018 10:49 tarihinde Peter Elderson yazdı: > Why would we want to document which side of the bus comes first? Just > think of it as a two-sided vehicle, like trams and trains.  > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstre

Re: [Tagging] new role for route relations: reverse

Does it have any stops in the street it reverses into? If not, it is not formally a part of the route and just a convention. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] how to tag place where horse-drawn carriages wait for tourists?

een similar services (tuk tuks) but they're not exclusively > for tourists.  > > > > On Fri, May 25, 2018, 19:57 Erkin Alp Güney <mailto:erkinalp9...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > highway=car_stop > car=yes > > > 25-05-2018 20:54 tarihinde Mate

Re: [Tagging] how to tag place where horse-drawn carriages wait for tourists?

highway=car_stop car=yes 25-05-2018 20:54 tarihinde Mateusz Konieczny yazdı: > > 24. May 2018 23:14 by matkoni...@tutanota.com > : > > It is quite typical tourism attraction - tourist may rent > carriage for a trip. > > In many cases there are designate

Re: [Tagging] access=disabled

access=disabled sounds much like access=disallowed. 18-05-2018 10:03 tarihinde osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au yazdı: > With emergency and disabled as part of access restrictions, they central > question becomes, are these access tag values (like yes, no, private, > destination, delivery, cus

Re: [Tagging] Is it possible to have highway=unclassified with ref tag?

> Road level sounds to me like how high it is. Or on which level in a > complex crossing with fly-overs and stuff.  > Beside that, would it be a problem to add a key for generic road > classification while still keeping the old values? Users could use the > generic classification by preference, and

Re: [Tagging] Is it possible to have highway=unclassified with ref tag?

I hereby propose a new tagging scheme. highway=primary ... tertiary deprecated. highway=road road_level= where values correspond to 0=trunk, 1=primary, 2=secondary, 3=tertiary etc. highway=motorway and other special tags (pedestrian, footway, service, track, path, living_street etc.) would still b

Re: [Tagging] Is it possible to have highway=unclassified with ref tag?

Russia is an example of this, they have many unpaved quarternary and quinary roads. 07-05-2018 21:13 tarihinde Kevin Kenny yazdı: > On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 12:47 PM, yo paseopor > wrote: > > The topic is the classification of OSM is not the same as > countries

Re: [Tagging] Is it possible to have highway=unclassified with ref tag?

OSM use is all D roads and rural U roads. Urban U roads are highway=residential. 07-05-2018 17:35 tarihinde Rory McCann yazdı: > On 06/05/18 09:41, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> I am pretty sure that it is entirely possible to have >> highway=unclassified >> with officially assigned and posted ref

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Walkingbus_stop

gt;> guiding signs, brochures showing the route... The route is planned and >> documented, and (at least till someone changes the planning) operate and >> exist even in the absence of people using them. >> >> The only thing that exist of what you describe is the environm

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Walkingbus_stop

ent event, though maybe > a commonly reoccurring one.) > > In either case, it doesn't sound like a "walking bus" at all. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Erkin Alp Güney >> Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2018 00:09 >> To: tagging@openstreetmap.org >&g

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Walkingbus_stop

> like what's currently already mapped using route=foot relations? > >> -----Original Message- >> From: Erkin Alp Güney >> Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:28 >> To: tagging@openstreetmap.org >> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Walkingbus_

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Walkingbus_stop

We also have walking bus routes in Turkey but without drivers. We call them "tabanvay", foot tram. You can have very crowded walking bus routes in peak times, especially in pedestrian road networks. 05-05-2018 15:59 tarihinde osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au yazdı: > > If there are actual poles

Re: [Tagging] Marking shops open on trade-free Sundays?

We have a similar thing in Turkey, but only for two days a year: May day, Republic day(October 29th). Unlike in Polish situation, large businesses can buy a license to open in these days, too. 27-04-2018 02:11 tarihinde Mateusz Konieczny yazdı: > > > > 26. Apr 2018 19:44 by erkinalp9...@gmail.com

Re: [Tagging] Marking shops open on trade-free Sundays?

shop=basic might be a good fit. 26-04-2018 20:11 tarihinde Michał Brzozowski yazdı: > Recently a law has been passed on Poland which restricts shops that > can be open on trade-free Sundays (currently 2 per month, in 2020 all).  > There is already a few apps (search keyword is "sklepy otwarte w >

Re: [Tagging] Identifying language regions

Majority language boundaries would be enough for most use cases. Sample tagging: type=boundary boundary=language name=Italiano ref= 18-04-2018 22:49 tarihinde Vao Matua yazdı: > I would suggest that OSM is probably not the best place for this.  > There are many countries that have many or even hu

Re: [Tagging] Railways along streets

Do as done on trams. highway=* with railway=rail. > > >> All the best >> >> François >> >> *François Lacombe* >> >> fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com >> www.infos-reseaux.com >> @InfosReseaux >> >> 2018-04-11 0:48 GMT+02:00 Pau

Re: [Tagging] red housenumbers

color=background:red; may work. 19-03-2018 21:24 tarihinde Martin Koppenhoefer yazdı: > > > 2018-03-19 18:35 GMT+01:00 Tom Pfeifer >: > > You would need to find first _why_ they have different numbers. > > > > I don't know why they have different numbers, but I

Re: [Tagging] Tagging request: missing admin_level tags

What is the intended usage of admin_level=0 then? 11-03-2018 01:17 tarihinde Christoph Hormann yazdı: > On Saturday 10 March 2018, Dave F wrote: >> I may be missing something, Christoph, but doesn't a combined search >> for admin_level=X & maritime=yes remove any misuse of the maritime >> tag & p

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

> (and yes, there are cases when you should use a contraction) name=* is full form. Not abbreviated in any way. Yours, faithfully Erkin Alp ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Nonbreakable spaces in name tags

Can you elaborate a bit more? 26-01-2018 17:48 tarihinde Matej Lieskovský yazdı: > Greetings! > > Several Slavic languages have rather formal rules about line breaks. > We in Czechia have a few contributors who take the time to add > nonbreakable spaces to names that "need" them. Needless to say,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

education=sports for academically oriented sports schools, education=cram_school otherwise. education=driving also for boat, train and aero driving schools. Advanced levels of those non-road driving schools(e.g. ADR training, multi-engine plane driving) go to education=specialty. 2017-09-18 0:22 G

Re: [Tagging] Subway vs light rail

Look up the LRTA's list (it is the office that determines whether a rapid transit is a light rail or metro). All other rapid transit systems are considered subways. 04-01-2018 15:32 tarihinde Fernando Trebien yazdı: > A German mapper just changed the rail type of a line [1] in my area > (southern

Re: [Tagging] a tag for "really-really-freestores"

shop=yes maxprice=zero Observe that zero is written in word. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Permanent IDs RFC (was part_of:wikidata)

30-11-2017 22:56 tarihinde Yuri Astrakhan yazdı: > > If you edit a road, a new one would be created and would point to its > invalidated ancestor. Recursively chasing previous ID pointers, you > would eventually have an object without an ancestor. ID of that object > would also be p

Re: [Tagging] Permanent IDs RFC (was part_of:wikidata)

If you edit a road, a new one would be created and would point to its invalidated ancestor. Recursively chasing previous ID pointers, you would eventually have an object without an ancestor. ID of that object would also be permanent ID of the successor objects. This will also solve road split probl

Re: [Tagging] Permanent IDs RFC (was part_of:wikidata)

Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > Implementing the permanent ID is conceptually (relatively) simple, but > would require a lot of work.  "When to break continuity" seems to be > the philosophical sticking point, as pointed out by others in this > discussion.  We could agree on some general continuity guidel

Re: [Tagging] Permanent IDs RFC (was part_of:wikidata)

Immutable objects with a previous ID field would solve that. Every edit will create or delete, no modify. First version's ID will be your persistent ID. 30-11-2017 10:28 tarihinde Frederik Ramm yazdı: > Ah, I forgot to say: The result of many, lengthy, previous discussions > about permanent IDs w

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - More RFC - Education Reform

-20 12:21 GMT+01:00 Erkin Alp Güney <mailto:erkinalp9...@gmail.com>>: > > > Yes, it is a collection. OpenStreetMap tagging should allow quick > searches on particular kinds of places. University colleges will > now be > members of university relations

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Education Reform

No, I have expanded it to cover all educational institutions now, primary focus being separating cram schools, as cram schools are usually not allowed to award a diploma and they should not be listed when searched for other education institutions. 20-11-2017 14:19 tarihinde Marc Gemis yazdı: > Wh

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - More RFC - Education Reform

20-11-2017 14:03 tarihinde Martin Koppenhoefer yazdı: > > > 2017-11-20 11:04 GMT+01:00 Erkin Alp Güney <mailto:erkinalp9...@gmail.com>>: > > > > What about dance / music (singing / instruments, ...) / schools? > > Academies? Conservatories? Professiona

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Education Reform

> What about dance / music (singing / instruments, ...) / schools? > Academies? Conservatories? Professional schools? education=specialty > Subtags how to tag the specialization (if any), about the degress you > can get, institutes and faculties, etc.). These tags already exist. Institutes and fac

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Education Reform

; Spanish goverment "oposiciones", Microsoft Certification, American > TOEFL... ).  > On the other hand, cram schools prepare for academic exams (access to > higschool, university or college).  > Am I right this time?  > > I think that adding more examples to your p

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Education Reform

schools as "religion=catholic" or leave > it blank? >   > Regards.  > > > 2017-11-18 19:06 GMT+01:00 Erkin Alp Güney <mailto:erkinalp9...@gmail.com>>: > > This version is considered for voting: > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pr

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Education Reform

You have conflated test centers and specialty schools. Test centers, as in my proposal, focus exclusively on _performing_ the standardised tests. I do not know where in the world we have these, but we have a government-operated one in Ankara, Turkey (ÖSYM computer-based examination building). Cram

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Education Reform

This version is considered for voting: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Education_Reform_Alternative 18-11-2017 21:05 tarihinde Erkin Alp Güney yazdı: > I am offering this proposal into voting as no replies arrived since last > month. > > Yours, faithfully

[Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Education Reform

I am offering this proposal into voting as no replies arrived since last month. Yours, faithfully Erkin Alp ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Feature proposals - Voting - Magnetic levitation trains

There was only one vote, which was mine. I request a vote extension. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Magnetic_levitaiton_train Yours, Erkin Alp ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/li

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Validity of Route Relations

They may open any time. It is sometimes associated with political events. However, closures almost always happen on the start of the timetable period. Michael wrote: > Unfortunately, sometimes timetables or operators change not only in > December but also in June. New (railway) lines or stations a

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

How about access=private and access:stranger=permit? However, military=* and access=private seems to conflict as military zone implies specific access rules. 20-09-2017 21:39 tarihinde Kevin Kenny yazdı: > > If details of permit administration are observable on the ground, we > can work out ways

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC - Magnetic Levitation Trains

Maglev is intended for HST usage. Monorail is usually intended for urban commutes. Different uses, different tagging. Maglev needs to render prominently, urban monorail does not. 18-09-2017 07:54 tarihinde Holger Jeromin yazdı: > Currently we have world wide one disused, one active test rail and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC - Magnetic Levitation Trains

> Another is magnetic levitation trains, this one having completed its > draft quickly. This brings railway=maglev tag and its associated > rendering. > Resent as per listmaster's request. _

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

These are applied educational research centers and should be tagged "education=applied_education". Completely different from a cram school. I do not know of any jurisdiction where a driving school is entitled to license a driver by itself. These examinations are government regulated otherwise driv

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

I have partly inspired by Turkish standardized education institution identification guide. Most of the school kinds mentioned, except universities, including ministry itself has distinct color codes identifying what kind of education institution they are (for example, all secondary schools have to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

That was a leftover from previous proposal. Edited proposal page to reflect that all educational institutions are covered. 17-09-2017 09:26 tarihinde marc marc yazdı: > Le 17. 09. 17 à 07:54, Erkin Alp Güney a écrit : > >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Propo

[Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

17-09-2017 11:16 tarihinde Erkin Alp Güney yazdı: > Driving school is a government-recognized education institution and > usually they have a monopoly in driving education. Hence they are > considered specialty schools, not cram-schools. However, due to > commonality, they need a sepa

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

They go under education=specialty. education=vocational is intended for post-secondary vocational schools. Regarding other question, yes, you can tag specialty=* or vocation=* to denote which subjects are trained, however, I do not think OSM database can cope with a generic university's whole swath

[Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

Two RFCs by me are ready. One of them are education reform(actually delayed a bit). This brings education key instead of amenity=school. Full proposal at Another is magnetic levitation trains, this one