Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Heavily-wooded residential polygons

2020-06-04 Thread Greg Troxel
stevea writes: > We agree. The issues are both around the different behavior of the > (Carto) renderer when both landuse=residential and natural=wood are > combined (and there are highly complex ways they can be and are > "combined" in the OSM database), and around how mappers understand > these

Re: [Tagging] Overlapping naturals

2020-06-04 Thread Warin
On 3/6/20 5:37 am, Florian Lohoff wrote: For me overlapping natural or landuses are broken. An area can either be a natural=wood or a landuse=farmland. You cant include the same area in two types of usages or naturals. You can. Farm land here can have trees to shelter animals from wind/sun an

Re: [Tagging] Adding mapillary tags to every building

2020-06-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jun 4, 2020, 16:00 by vinc...@bergeot.org: > Le 04/06/2020 à 15:49, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit : > >> You have right to use your own images, AFAIK there is also a special >> permission >> for OSM mapping but otherwise images are owned by them. >> > > mapillary picture are CC-BY-SA, you

Re: [Tagging] Overlapping naturals

2020-06-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Because such lists are generally harder to understand, harder to edit, mostly theoretical - such exact matches do not really occur in reality and such lists are not supported (both editor programs and data consumers). Jun 4, 2020, 16:06 by ravilac...@gmail.com: > > Why not landuse=forest;meadow i

Re: [Tagging] Do we need more different tagging for telephone covers?

2020-06-04 Thread Lukas via Tagging
Hmm, yes. I agree with you that covered_by would not fit it, but we still have the thing that some mappers would be ok with extending the key covered=* with more specific values and others won't. But as I see it, covered still has some other values than yes/no exactly for this thing (covered=arcade

Re: [Tagging] Adding mapillary tags to every building

2020-06-04 Thread European Water Project
Hi Clifford, Our images get linked to osm object as per the wiki page .. they are added after manual curation using either the tag image, mapillary or wikimedia_commons depending on where the image is stored. We developed the workflow because our users found the workflow below to be suboptimal :

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-06-04 Thread Cornelis via Tagging
I would like to add another interesting one. A railway that never has been finished completely, but you can clearly see it on the map, nonetheless: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/51.0885/6.6486 Most of it is still visible, not only in the bigger picture. It's build as embarkment in large pa

Re: [Tagging] Adding mapillary tags to every building

2020-06-04 Thread Clifford Snow
Don't we already have https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Photo_linking which is how to add photos for objects? -- @osm_washington www.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists

Re: [Tagging] Adding mapillary tags to every building

2020-06-04 Thread European Water Project
Dear Janko, I have been dialoging with Christopher Beddow, Edoardo Neerhut, and Fredrik Glans at Mapillary over the past couple of months. While all three of them have shown enthusiasm, single-snap images are just not a priority at this point for Mapillary. Yes, I confirm - nearby images whether

Re: [Tagging] Do we need more different tagging for telephone covers?

2020-06-04 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 14:55, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > Jun 4, 2020, 14:51 by pla16...@gmail.com: > > > The author of iD is one of the mappers who doesn't like it. So much so > that he > removed that option from the preset for phone=*. Unless you can pe

Re: [Tagging] Adding mapillary tags to every building

2020-06-04 Thread Jake Edmonds via Tagging
> I almost never found a photo of something I was looking for with OsmAnd's > "close by Mapillary photos" I agree I realise this thread was initially about buildings but when I’m using OsmAnd to find, for example, a public transport ticket machine at an airport, I want to see a photo of the mac

Re: [Tagging] Adding mapillary tags to every building

2020-06-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
> > Is it really necessary? "give image for location [lat, lon] from direction > X" seems a > basic functionality for service like Mapillary. > I almost never found a photo of something I was looking for with OsmAnd's "close by Mapillary photos". I think Osmand only takes Mapillary photos x meters

Re: [Tagging] Overlapping naturals

2020-06-04 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
Why not landuse=forest;meadow in one only polygon ? Cheers, Rafael. O 04/06/20 ás 15:55, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging escribiu: Jun 4, 2020, 10:50 by ravilac...@gmail.com: This is interesting. But what if the (for example) silvopasture would occupy exactly the same area fo the lan

Re: [Tagging] Adding mapillary tags to every building

2020-06-04 Thread Vincent Bergeot
Le 04/06/2020 à 15:49, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit : You have right to use your own images, AFAIK there is also a special permission for OSM mapping but otherwise images are owned by them. mapillary picture are CC-BY-SA, you can use pictures and download them without pay nothing.

Re: [Tagging] Overlapping naturals

2020-06-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jun 4, 2020, 10:50 by ravilac...@gmail.com: > > This is interesting. But what if the (for example) silvopasture would > occupy exactly the same area fo the landuse=forest and the > landuse=meadow? > > Exactly the same? Rare but it can be tagged. Create a closed way, and make a two

Re: [Tagging] Do we need more different tagging for telephone covers?

2020-06-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jun 4, 2020, 14:51 by pla16...@gmail.com: > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 12:35, Lukas via Tagging <> tagging@openstreetmap.org> > > wrote: > >>   >> 1. covered=booth for closed phone-boxes, but some mappers do not really like >> that. >> > > The author of iD is one of the mappers who doesn't like i

Re: [Tagging] Adding mapillary tags to every building

2020-06-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jun 4, 2020, 14:54 by jan...@gmail.com: > does this community think this would be ridiculous or not? > Mapillary has images geolocated anyway, so if someone wants to use Mapillary it seems unnecessary. > Would Mapillary be the right service to host the photos? > No. Note https://www.mapillary

Re: [Tagging] Adding mapillary tags to every building

2020-06-04 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 2020-06-04 14:54, Janko Mihelić wrote: > I think having a photo of every building, as well as other features like > public sculptures, memorials, bus stations would be very useful. You > would be able to click a building, and know what it looks like. I would not want us to encourage and su

Re: [Tagging] Do we need more different tagging for telephone covers?

2020-06-04 Thread Marc M.
Hello, Le 04.06.20 à 13:33, Lukas via Tagging a écrit : > the question is whether key covered=* is suitable for this. > Or should we stay with a stricter covered=yes/no > and maybe add something like covered_by=phone_hood or something? key=yes/no with some more specific value is the common logic

[Tagging] Adding mapillary tags to every building

2020-06-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
I think having a photo of every building, as well as other features like public sculptures, memorials, bus stations would be very useful. You would be able to click a building, and know what it looks like. I had an idea to make an app that shows you a map, and you would click on a building, take a

Re: [Tagging] Do we need more different tagging for telephone covers?

2020-06-04 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 12:35, Lukas via Tagging wrote: > > 1. covered=booth for closed phone-boxes, but some mappers do not really > like that. > The author of iD is one of the mappers who doesn't like it. So much so that he removed that option from the preset for phone=*. Unless you can persua

[Tagging] Do we need more different tagging for telephone covers?

2020-06-04 Thread Lukas via Tagging
Hi, as some public telephones might get removed in these days, in many countries we still have some. Also many of them are covered but in different kinds of. Now I'm thinking about how to tag the different types of a telephone cover. I mean, a closed phone box is different from for example just a

Re: [Tagging] Overlapping naturals

2020-06-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jun 4, 2020, 10:59 by f...@zz.de: > > Hi Mateusz, > > On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 11:19:10PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > >> You can have forested military base with wetland (real case). >> >> You can probably find military base (landuse=military) with landuse=farmland. >> >> There

Re: [Tagging] Overlapping naturals

2020-06-04 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi Mateusz, On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 11:19:10PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > You can have forested military base with wetland (real case). > > You can probably find military base (landuse=military) with landuse=farmland. > > There are residential areas in forests, there are indu

Re: [Tagging] Overlapping naturals

2020-06-04 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
This is interesting. But what if the (for example) silvopasture would occupy exactly the same area fo the landuse=forest and the landuse=meadow? Of course we could handle this with a new tag landuse=silvopasture. But for other cases? Would it be good to have to exact different way, one with eac

[Tagging] Adding man_made=spoil_heap to the Map Features page?

2020-06-04 Thread Vojtech Filipec
It seems to me the discussion is now about three points: 1. landfill vs. spoil_heap: In Czechia these two are considered two distinct landscape elements. The heaps climb above the horizon and due to (typically) sharp slopes and plateau on top, they are easy to distinguish from a natural hill so I