Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

On 3/2/20 6:32 pm, pang...@riseup.net wrote: I don't think the solution of using surface will do. surface=paved says nothing about if the bicycle can be secured and what too. Nor does it say anything about how the bike is held. The bicycle_parking key is used for lots of things... buildi

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

> >I don't think the solution of using surface will do. > > >surface=paved says nothing about if the bicycle can be secured and what >too. > >Nor does it say anything about how the bike is held. > > >The bicycle_parking key is used for lots of things... > >buildings/sheds > >stands/racks > >A ve

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

On 3/2/20 5:49 pm, European Water Project wrote:  amenity = fountain drinking_water=yes Is the best way to tag this. The summary for amenity=fountain says: "A fountain for cultural / decorational / recreational purposes. This might range from the usual fountain that you'll find in lots of

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

On 3/2/20 3:45 pm, John Willis via Tagging wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:bicycle_parking looking over the discussion page, they added =floor in sept 2017 (in response to various questions) to not only be a =surface substitute, but for it to be combined with building=yes

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

amenity = fountain drinking_water=yes Is the best way to tag this. Please add photos in Wikimedia commons and link back :) On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 00:35 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 3/2/20 8:29 am, António Madeira wrote: > > Hi there. > > > > In Portugal and most Mediterranean countr

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:bicycle_parking looking over the discussion page, they added =floor in sept 2017 (in response to various questions) to not only be a =surface substitute, but for it to be combined with b

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

> On Feb 3, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > But it will not be replaced by the surface key as the tag represents 2 things. I think trying to represent the two ideas is too difficult. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bicycle_parking

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

On the OSM wiki for bicycle_parking=, there are ~10 different values for racks/stands/trees/bollards of various types. Our cup runneth over. we are talking about one value, =floor, which would be called =surface if it was car parking. I want to change that value to =surface before =floor beco

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

A possibility: bicycle_rack=yes/no? On Sun, Feb 2, 2020, 17:04 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 3/2/20 5:34 am, John Willis via Tagging wrote: > > Bicycle parking is full of different kinds of stands. > > “Floor” is Currently the the lack of anything - just an open area to park. > > But

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

On 3/2/20 8:29 am, António Madeira wrote: Hi there. In Portugal and most Mediterranean countries, there are literally thousands of fountains that are not decorative like those examples at the bottom of the wiki page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfountain I'm talking about f

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

On 3/2/20 5:34 am, John Willis via Tagging wrote: Bicycle parking is full of different kinds of stands. “Floor” is Currently the the lack of anything - just an open area to park. But A) “floor” doesn’t mean “lockable” or not. All the others describe stands and poles and whatnot, but ** “Floo

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

Because almost all these fountains are drinking fountains (we're talking about many thousands in a minuscule country like Portugal), which it's their main purpose. So, stating that "The water of those fountains is often not suitable for drinking" leaves mappers unnecessarily in doubt. Às 19:42 d

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

sent from a phone > Il giorno 2 feb 2020, alle ore 23:33, António Madeira > ha scritto: > > Saying that "A fountain for cultural / decorational / recreational purposes. > (...) This might range from the usual fountain that you'll find in lots of > city centers, up to large fountains like th

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 at 22:24, António Madeira wrote: > The thing with this tag is that it doesn't encapsulate the historic, > architectonic and cultural meaning of the place. It's difficult to tag a > village central fountain, with it's structure, colours, design etc. and > just tag them with drin

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

The problem I see here is that the amenity=fountain wiki description is too restrictive. Saying that "A fountain for cultural / decorational / recreational purposes. (...) This might range from the usual fountain that you'll find in lots of city centers, up to large fountains like the Trevi Founta

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

sent from a phone > Il giorno 2 feb 2020, alle ore 23:24, António Madeira > ha scritto: > > An official mention on the fountain or just knowing that people drink the > water? I’d say knowing that people drink it, plus the absence of a “no drinking water” sign. But it could depend on the a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

sent from a phone > Il giorno 2 feb 2020, alle ore 23:24, António Madeira > ha scritto: > > It's difficult to tag a village central fountain, with it's structure, > colours, design etc. and just tag them with drinking_water. the tagging for this would be amenity=fountain drinking_water=ye

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

The thing with this tag is that it doesn't encapsulate the historic, architectonic and cultural meaning of the place. It's difficult to tag a village central fountain, with it's structure, colours, design etc. and just tag them with drinking_water. This creates a lot of ambiguity in Portugal, sinc

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

sent from a phone > Il giorno 2 feb 2020, alle ore 22:58, Joseph Eisenberg > ha scritto: > > The first is designed like a Roman or Medieval drinking fountain, so > amenity=drinking_water is appropriate. The second example does not > have water running in the picture, but if it can be used (pe

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

Hi Antonio, amenity=drinking_water seems like the right way to go for a utilitarian drinking fountain. Best regards, Stuart On Sun, Feb 2, 2020, 22:30 António Madeira wrote: > Hi there. > > In Portugal and most Mediterranean countries, there are literally > thousands of fountains that are no

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

> They're not decorative, they're utilitarian architectonic structures The first is designed like a Roman or Medieval drinking fountain, so amenity=drinking_water is appropriate. The second example does not have water running in the picture, but if it can be used (perhaps there is a handle which

[Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

Hi there. In Portugal and most Mediterranean countries, there are literally thousands of fountains that are not decorative like those examples at the bottom of the wiki page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfountain I'm talking about fountains that exist in every small village

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

Bicycle parking is full of different kinds of stands. “Floor” is Currently the the lack of anything - just an open area to park. But A) “floor” doesn’t mean “lockable” or not. All the others describe stands and poles and whatnot, but ** “Floor” doesn't explicitly mean “no locking affordanc

Re: [Tagging] road names and refs

sent from a phone > Il giorno 31 gen 2020, alle ore 17:58, Jmapb ha scritto: > > In neither case would I say that adding an old_ref or old_name tag is > wrong per se, but I doubt that it would ever be particularly helpful. I am using the old_ref tag occasionally, it doesn’t harm and could so