Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Greetings my fellow OSM colleagues. In all fairness, I think it should not be as difficult to find a good way to facilitate entering a complementary address tag, one that is very much needed in our part of the world - one which applies to and needed in most of the world actually. This has be

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Yes, we call them "mile markers" in my part of Oregon/Northern California too, like "the wildfire started on the north side of Highway 96 at mile marker 23" - but houses and other structures have addresses with house numbers. On 10/2/19, Dave Swarthout wrote: > The "milestone" value is a misnomer

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

The "milestone" value is a misnomer in most modern situations. Here in Thailand, many roads have actual mile markers, er kilometer markers, but they are not made of stone. They are painted concrete. In the U.S. there are very few of these if any. When I'm tagging mile markers in the U.S., I include

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

> I think we're close to hitting the record for how misleading a tag name can > be. Maybe. > This is a proposal for a tag addr:milestone to allow us to specify a > distance in kilometres > (not miles), of a house (not a milestone) and the nearest milestone isn't a > stone but a sign. It could be

Re: [Tagging] Was there every a proposal for the disused:key=* / abandoned:key=* lifecycle prefixes?

sent from a phone On 1. Oct 2019, at 16:07, Kevin Kenny wrote: >> The 6 papal basilicas are the 4 major basilicas in Rome plus 2 minor >> basilicas in Assisi. > Nitpick: 7. The minor basilica of San Lorenzo fuori le Mura in Rome is > also a papal basilica. it seems it was a patriarchal basi

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Il giorno mar, 01/10/2019 alle 23.09 +0200, Tobias Zwick ha scritto: > Milestones are not necessarily located at the true distance of A to > B. Not sure why this is the case, but I know that this is true for at > least Thailand. > On 01/10/2019 21:10, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 19

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 18:11, Mark Wagner wrote: > On Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:01:06 +0200 > Colin Smale wrote: > Instead, linear position gets turned into a house number. For example, a > building > eight and a half miles from the start of Long Road might be "850 > Long Road". > That's why I asked

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

Milestones are not necessarily located at the true distance of A to B. Not sure why this is the case, but I know that this is true for at least Thailand. On 01/10/2019 21:10, Paul Allen wrote: > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 19:40, Jorge Aguirre > wrote: > > The add

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 19:40, Jorge Aguirre wrote: The addresses that utilize ‘Km’ as part of the actual address are always > related to a specific 'highway:milestone’ on that particular highway. For > instance, the address for the Hilton Guatemala Vista Real Hotel in > Guatemala - as it appears o

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

9 or 8.5? If the address is of an actual road marker then addr:milestone > would be appropriate (given that we already misuse highway=milestone > to mean kilometre markers); if it's a distance that doesn't correspond to > an actual road marker then we need a better name. > >

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

What I'm unclear on is if these addresses refer to an actual road marker, or an actual distance based upon interpolation between actual road markers. If you have a road marker at 8km and another road marker at 9km, would a house between the two have addr:milestone 8, 9 or 8.5? If the address is o

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Toy Library

Toy libraries are a feature that has already been tagged a bit by map editors, but was never officially approved or discussed, and is currently not rendered in Mapnik. I described it further on its proposal page on the wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/toy_library __

Re: [Tagging] Strange tags

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 15:46, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > The issue of whether enough people know a name to make it 'truly' a > name for OSM is, and will always be, a judgment call at the low end. I > doubt we'll ever find a bright line. There's a fuzzy line somewhere > between the Pauls and the Catski

Re: [Tagging] Strange tags

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 10:16 AM Paul Allen wrote: > The point is that while Pauls may never be a thing (unless I make a list of > all the peaks > I'd never climb, which is all of them) and Kevins may be unlikely to be a > thing, there is > nothing to prevent other lists being created and becomin

Re: [Tagging] Strange tags

Am Di., 1. Okt. 2019 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > > > Whether we have a relation `type=group name=Munros` or whether we have >> a tag: `hillbagging:munro=yes` (and yes, I agree that if we go the >> latter route, a namespace is a good idea) is something to which I'm >> largely indifferent. I

Re: [Tagging] Strange tags

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 14:45, Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 02:41, Kevin Kenny wrote: > >> Given that the lists at this point are arbitrary, > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 7:39 AM Paul Allen wrote: > > That was the conclusion I came to after a more detailed reading of the > wikipedia

Re: [Tagging] Was there every a proposal for the disused:key=* / abandoned:key=* lifecycle prefixes?

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 7:26 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > actually St. Paul's does have walls, the name is "outside the walls" > intending outside the city walls. ;-) Yes. I know it has walls! 'Without the walls' is a traditional, literary translation for 'extra moenia' (which in turn is render

Re: [Tagging] Strange tags

On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 02:41, Kevin Kenny wrote: >> Given that the lists at this point are arbitrary, On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 7:39 AM Paul Allen wrote: > That was the conclusion I came to after a more detailed reading of the > wikipedia > page. Until a couple of days ago I'd only heard of Munr

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 13:34, santamariense wrote: > > I am not sure about to keep "Km". It might be understandable by the > key 'addr:milestone' itself. It might. OSM uses highway=milestone to mean a road marker in general, rather than a traditional milestone (which was a stone with distances

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

This tag only comes to give a standard to something that already is being mapped off the cuff. When you search by "KM" in https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/addr:housenumber#values you will find 2758 addr:housenumber that contains "KM" as part of their values. Such information can be even found

Re: [Tagging] Was there every a proposal for the disused:key=* / abandoned:key=* lifecycle prefixes?

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 12:09, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: usually people will go by the name I think, if it is called "cathedral" > they will reasonably think it is a cathedral... > Many people, if they see the word cathedral on a map, will be looking for a building something like https://commons.

Re: [Tagging] Was there every a proposal for the disused:key=* / abandoned:key=* lifecycle prefixes?

Am Mo., 30. Sept. 2019 um 17:03 Uhr schrieb Kevin Kenny < kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com>: > Examples: In Rome, St Peter's, St Mary Major, and St Paul's Without > the Walls are all basilicas, but none of these is a cathedral. actually St. Paul's does have walls, the name is "outside the walls" intendi

Re: [Tagging] Was there every a proposal for the disused:key=* / abandoned:key=* lifecycle prefixes?

sent from a phone On 30. Sep 2019, at 16:49, Paul Allen wrote: Some denominations have strict ranks. Others are far more egalitarian. And what rank is the only place of worship of a very small denomination? the tag was introduced for those denominations where rank is well defined and importa

Re: [Tagging] Strange tags

On 2019-09-30 12:38, Paul Allen wrote: On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 02:41, Kevin Kenny > wrote: Given that the lists at this point are arbitrary, That was the conclusion I came to after a more detailed reading of the wikipedia page.  Until a couple of days ago I

Re: [Tagging] Colby's "Instructions for the Interior Survey of Ireland" (Was: Strange tags)

On 01/10/19 09:00, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 30/9/19 22:42, Philip Barnes wrote: Which is how we end up with River Avon, avon (afon in welsh) meaning river hence River River. At least they asked. In Australia it was a bunch of white guys traveling around saying: that's Botany Bay, that's

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

On Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:01:06 +0200 Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-10-01 08:18, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > Hi Jorge, > > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 08:15:37PM -0600, Jorge Aguirre wrote: > > > >> Throughouthe entire Latin American region and some other parts of > >> the world, it is quite co

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

> I may be mistaken but I seem to remember mile markers being used in rural areas of the USA to indicate linear position along a main road. You are not mistaken. Many hotels and parks in the rural areas of Alaska mark their location that way. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:06 PM Colin Smale wrote: >

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

sent from a phone > On 1. Oct 2019, at 08:18, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > We have such addresses in Germany too. In Italy you can find them as well, they are not uncommon for properties along through roads outside of settlements and for highway rest areas. Currently I’m either using addr:full

Re: [Tagging] New tag proposal: 'addr=milestone'

On 2019-10-01 08:18, Florian Lohoff wrote: > Hi Jorge, > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 08:15:37PM -0600, Jorge Aguirre wrote: > >> Throughouthe entire Latin American region and some other parts of >> the world, it is quite common to find the kilometer (Km.) information, >> as may be found on the "h