Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag value: surface=bare_rock

On 13/05/2015 8:05 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-05-10 12:51 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny >: Among more common tags used for this purpose are surface=stone/rocky/rock. I believe some mappers also use surface=ground (myself included in the past) whi

Re: [Tagging] General tagging system problems

Orchard. Natural or man-made ? Does it even matter, it's just orchard. Building IS man-made but does not come under man made. -- Mike. @millomweb - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *cur

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > A signed height limit is likely somewhat conservative. On a USA road > way that's an advisory sign, but if you > run a larger load under the bridge and something happens it's your fault. > > The actual maximum height is likely larger. Ther

Re: [Tagging] General tagging system problems

W dniu 13.05.2015 18:24, Bryce Nesbitt napisał(a): On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I'm not convinced that such a generic approach will help to get unambiguous tagging, e.g. children + education + building (= school building) -> architectural school? language school?

Re: [Tagging] man_made=apiary or ?

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:30 AM, Anders Anker-Rasch wrote: > < http://apiarymap.com/ , perhaps it's better to see a partner rather than > a parallel effort. Reach out to those folks and see if they'd be willing > to switch base maps, and harmonize data for display.>> > > I've looked into apiary

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:56 AM, Jo wrote: > not by name, explicitely, but that's how we've been using it since the very > beginning. It will be really hard to change that. We also have maxheight and > maxwidth, I think it's obvious those are hard limits, not advisory. That's fuzzy also. A sign

Re: [Tagging] General tagging system problems (was: shop=confectionery / pastry / candy / sweets)

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I'm not convinced that such a generic approach will help to get > unambiguous tagging, e.g. > children + education + building (= school building) -> architectural > school? language school? ... > vehicle + education (= driving school

Re: [Tagging] On appointment restaurant

Hi This can already be done, no problem. It is even described on the key page [1]. Just search for "on appointment". Garbage detector software: * http://openingh.openstreetmap.de/?setLng=en * https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quality_Assurance_Tools_script Checkout: http://openingh.openstreet

Re: [Tagging] On appointment restaurant

I would tag that as amenity=events_venue. Phil (trigpoint ) On Wed May 13 15:26:45 2015 GMT+0100, André Pirard wrote: > Hi, > > Either opening_hours=on_appointment is missing or amenity=restaurant > lacks a tag or an explanation. > > It is a restaurant indeed, but only hired for private group e

Re: [Tagging] man_made=apiary or ?

Yes, this is correct. Without too much knowledge about the world wide approach; In Norway, most professional beekeepers travel with their hives for a limited time of the year, typicaly 3-4 weeks for a specific nectar. Other than that, they provide services such as pollination, but mostly they are

[Tagging] On appointment restaurant

Hi, Either opening_hours=on_appointment is missing or amenity=restaurant lacks a tag or an explanation. It is a restaurant indeed, but only hired for private group events like marriages. It is not an amenity=community_centre but it's also what you call a craft=caterer. How do I map that? BTW,

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

On 13 May 2015 at 10:03, Colin Smale wrote: > Don't agree with this... there have been discussions in the past about > whether the "width" of a "way" includes the pavements etc... Where a road > goes under a bridge, where do you measure the "height" of the road? > Are we talking signage or real

Re: [Tagging] General tagging system problems

W dniu 13.05.2015 10:46, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): I'm not convinced that such a generic approach will help to get unambiguous tagging, e.g. Preface first (sorry, just jump to the *** section if not interested =} )... One thing is sure for me - there's no way to avoid ambiguity when c

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Colin Smale wrote: > Don't agree with this... there have been discussions in the past about > whether the "width" of a "way" includes the pavements etc... Where a road > goes under a bridge, where do you measure the "height" of the road? The > highest point (not

Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag value: surface=bare_rock

2015-05-10 12:51 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > Among more common tags used for this purpose are > surface=stone/rocky/rock. > I believe some mappers also use surface=ground (myself included in the past) which is a bit problematic because you have to know what kind of ground there is in order t

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

2015-05-13 11:03 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson : > maxspeed=75 mph (or even none in some cases) > maxspeed:hgv=65 mph > maxspeed:night=65 mph > maxspeed:hgv:night=55 mph > time dependent maxspeeds typically get tagged with the conditional syntax, e.g. "maxspeed:conditional=100 @ (sunset-sunrise)" (mo

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:33 AM, wrote: > On Wed May 13 09:02:18 2015 GMT+0100, Ross wrote: > > Not the way I read their email. > > > > However there is already provision for: > > > > maxspeed: > > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed > > > > and > > > > maxspeed:advisory > > > > h

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

Don't agree with this... there have been discussions in the past about whether the "width" of a "way" includes the pavements etc... Where a road goes under a bridge, where do you measure the "height" of the road? The highest point (not good enough for vehicles) or the "lowest highest point" or "

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

2015-05-13 10:31 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale : > maxheight and maxwidth are indeed not advisory, but they are both still > only "legal" and have ":physical" subtags to indicate the actual > width/height of the obstruction. We won't be needing that for maxspeed I > think. on a sidenote: the :physical

Re: [Tagging] General tagging system problems (was: shop=confectionery / pastry / candy / sweets)

2015-05-13 0:32 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć : > children + education + building (= school building) > vehicle + education (= driving school) > area + tree (= forest/wood) > building + sleep (= hotel/hostel/...) > I'm not convinced that such a generic approach will help to get unambiguous tagging, e.g.

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

On Wed May 13 09:02:18 2015 GMT+0100, Ross wrote: > Not the way I read their email. > > However there is already provision for: > > maxspeed: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed > > and > > maxspeed:advisory > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed:advisory > > >

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:56 AM, Jo wrote: > 2015-05-11 13:08 GMT+02:00 pmailkeey . : > >> >> >> On 11 May 2015 at 11:40, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:04 AM, James Mast >>> wrote: >>> Well, in the US, I've just been tagging the 'ramp' speeds ( https://goo.gl/ma

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

maxheight and maxwidth are indeed not advisory, but they are both still only "legal" and have ":physical" subtags to indicate the actual width/height of the obstruction. We won't be needing that for maxspeed I think. On 2015-05-13 09:56, Jo wrote: > 2015-05-11 13:08 GMT+02:00 pmailkeey . : >

Re: [Tagging] shop=confectionery / pastry / candy / sweets

2015-05-12 23:47 GMT+02:00 pmailkeey . : > McDonalds are restaurants ! even they say this ! > > Fast food restaurants, if you ask me ;) > yes, and fast food restaurants in OSM get the tag amenity=fast_food, while fast food take away only get addtionally the subtag takeaway=only. Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

Not the way I read their email. However there is already provision for: maxspeed: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed and maxspeed:advisory http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed:advisory So I'd suggest that maxspeed is the "legal speed limit" as per the wiki and all

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

2015-05-11 13:08 GMT+02:00 pmailkeey . : > > > On 11 May 2015 at 11:40, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:04 AM, James Mast >> wrote: >> >>> Well, in the US, I've just been tagging the 'ramp' speeds ( >>> https://goo.gl/maps/Bw8Is ) as a normal 'maxspeed'. I know several >>> ot

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

If I understand what pmailkeey is saying, he's suggesting an expansion of maxspeed into a namespace, so maxspeed:advisory could be a recognizable thing. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Ross wrote: > And read the wiki page on maxspeed: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed > > "