Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

Am 23.07.2014 06:21, schrieb Andreas Labres: > Here is a comparison: > > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/amenity=kindergarten/amenity=childcare/amenity=preschool > > And let me add, things and terms here in Austria differ from Germany: > > On 23.07.14 01:48, Andreas Goss wrote: [for Ger

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:building=kindergarten, accept and document usage of this tag

Here is list of terms linked at en:Kindergarten page (not necessary same thing as kindergarten in Germany) Afghanistan {Dari)کودکستان/(Pashto)وړکتون} Australia and New Zealand kindergarten Bangladesh 'Kindergarten' or 'KG School (Kindergarten School)' Bulgaria detska gradina (деτска градина) Canad

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

Thanks for adding productivity to the conversation! > On Jul 22, 2014, at 1:53 PM, John Packer wrote: > > Friends, > > I've had this in my to-do list for a while, and the recent discussion about > min_age and age_group prompted me to bring attention to this issue. > > We should review the wa

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

Here is a comparison: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/amenity=kindergarten/amenity=childcare/amenity=preschool And let me add, things and terms here in Austria differ from Germany: On 23.07.14 01:48, Andreas Goss wrote: [for Germany] > - Kinderkrippe (under 3 years) > - Kindergarten (3

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:building=kindergarten, accept and document usage of this tag

Maybe this is a US-centric view, but in the US, a kindergarten is a grade of school. In other parts of the world, does kindergarten mean day care? - Serge On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Никита wrote: > Hello! This is second time I send email. First was rejected for some reason. > > Tag:build

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

(some people mentioned it doesn't with Germany's). For Germany I think this summs it up prett well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_care#Germany Bascially we have: - Kinderkrippe (under 3 years) - Kindergarten (3 to 6 years) - KiTa/Kindertagesstätte (extension of either one or combination)

Re: [Tagging] min_age vs. minage

Am 22.07.2014 19:43, schrieb Florian Schäfer: > Am 22.07.2014 19:28, schrieb fly: >> Please, also think about the existing confusion and about the future. >> Mappers will always mix up the tags/definitions if tag names are that >> similar. > +1, different tags make sense. Ideally something, that i

Re: [Tagging] generalized survey and consequences

On 2014-06-09 12:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : > > 2014-06-09 8:31 GMT+02:00 André Pirard >: > > And that maxspeed thing is the strangest one ever. > source=* almost says that source:maxspeed > =

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

On 22 Jul 2014 18:55, "John Packer" wrote: > From what I have seen, one thing seems clear: there is demand for differentiating between places where kids are simply taken care of, and places where kids have basic education, but not at school level. Great idea, I think a well-defined way to tag the

[Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

Friends, I've had this in my to-do list for a while, and the recent discussion about min_age and age_group prompted me to bring attention to this issue. We should review the way kindergartens are being tagged. >From what I have seen, one thing seems clear: there is demand for differentiating betw

Re: [Tagging] min_age vs. minage

Am 22.07.2014 19:28, schrieb fly: > Am 22.07.2014 18:58, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: >> 2014-07-22 18:31 GMT+02:00 Никита > >: >> >> Hello everyone! Target minage (age_group) should be different from >> legal minage (current tag min_age). >> >> >> >> generally agr

Re: [Tagging] min_age vs. minage

Am 22.07.2014 18:58, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > 2014-07-22 18:31 GMT+02:00 Никита >: > > Hello everyone! Target minage (age_group) should be different from > legal minage (current tag min_age). > > > > generally agree (there might be exceptions etc., and

Re: [Tagging] min_age vs. minage

Am 22.07.2014 18:58, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > 2014-07-22 18:31 GMT+02:00 Никита >: > > Hello everyone! Target minage (age_group) should be different from > legal minage (current tag min_age). > > > > generally agree (there might be exceptions etc., and it

Re: [Tagging] min_age vs. minage

I hear about ISCED for the first time but this is great standard (based on en:wiki description). It is questionable how easily this information (ISCED level) can be mapped. I question that every kindergarten headmistress (esp in countryside) may answer their ISCED level. Think about India or some

Re: [Tagging] min_age vs. minage

2014-07-22 18:31 GMT+02:00 Никита : > Hello everyone! Target minage (age_group) should be different from legal > minage (current tag min_age). generally agree (there might be exceptions etc., and it really is not a strictly legal restriction but more kind of a guideline in the cases I know of).

Re: [Tagging] min_age vs. minage

Hello everyone! Target minage (age_group) should be different from legal minage (current tag min_age). I have reason and explanation for this. I have found age_group (not legal age, but something like target_age) tag, but right now is only proposal and defined only for 4 amenity

Re: [Tagging] RFC: crossing=*

2014-07-22 17:39 GMT+02:00 Volker Schmidt : > My understanding is that André talks about foot-ways that are marked by > zebra stripes to augment their visibility. They are not (necessarily) > crossing any other way. They are ways and therefore in my understanding no > crossings at all, they are fo

Re: [Tagging] RFC: crossing=*

My understanding is that André talks about foot-ways that are marked by zebra stripes to augment their visibility. They are not (necessarily) crossing any other way. They are ways and therefore in my understanding no crossings at all, they are foot-ways marked by zebra stripes, often not physically

Re: [Tagging] min_age vs. minage

OK, I've just merged both pages into Key:min_age [1] and Key:max_age [2], added a note, describing why and translated both pages into German. So for me the discussion is finished. If anyone doesn't like, that it's now min_age instead of minage: Please discuss it here or on the respective talk-page

Re: [Tagging] RFC: crossing=*

2014-07-22 14:04 GMT+02:00 Peter Wendorff : > Hi André, > I think where a visible painting like at zebra crossings is painted > along a street as you describe, that isn't a crossing (it doesn't cross > anything), but more like a sidewalk without being raised or separated by > anything else but the

Re: [Tagging] RFC: crossing=*

Hi André, I think where a visible painting like at zebra crossings is painted along a street as you describe, that isn't a crossing (it doesn't cross anything), but more like a sidewalk without being raised or separated by anything else but the color pattern on the ground. Tagging those as crossin

Re: [Tagging] RFC: crossing=* (was: highway=speed_camera equivalent for non-speed enforcement types)

I have tagged, occasionally, longitudinal "zebra" markings as designated foot-way, which seems to me better than "crossing" on ways. Volker Italy On 22 July 2014 12:00, Dan S wrote: > 2014-07-22 10:43 GMT+01:00 André Pirard : > > > > On 2014-07-22 11:01, Jo wrote : > > I have mentioned without

Re: [Tagging] RFC: crossing=* (was: highway=speed_camera equivalent for non-speed enforcement types)

2014-07-22 10:43 GMT+01:00 André Pirard : > > On 2014-07-22 11:01, Jo wrote : > I have mentioned without much follow-up a similar issue with highway=crossing > + crossing=*. > What OSM calls "crossing", zebra stripes, is in fact a "passage pour piétons" > which does not necessarily cross. Why do

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Power transmission refinement - RFC 2

On 21/07/14 22:00, François Lacombe wrote: Hi Gentlemen, [snip] Thanks in advance for any feedbacks. Are women forbidden from commenting? -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreet

Re: [Tagging] RFC: crossing=* (was: highway=speed_camera equivalent for non-speed enforcement types)

On 2014-07-22 11:01, Jo wrote : > FYI it doesn't seem likely that the event of dropping highway=bus_stop > or highway=speed_camera will be dropped in a foreseeable future, > meaning you'll have to keep double tagging everything. > > In Belgium all red light cameras do double duty as speed cameras,

Re: [Tagging] highway=speed_camera equivalent for non-speed enforcement types

FYI it doesn't seem likely that the event of dropping highway=bus_stop or highway=speed_camera will be dropped in a foreseeable future, meaning you'll have to keep double tagging everything. In Belgium all red light cameras do double duty as speed cameras, so I didn't have this particular problem.

Re: [Tagging] highway=speed_camera equivalent for non-speed enforcement types

> Am 22/lug/2014 um 10:38 schrieb Andreas Goss : > > You could see how big the support in the community is replace > highway=speed_camera key with a man_made=* IMHO highway is more appropriate than man_made for these. Something more specific like "enforcement" could be a alternative cheers

Re: [Tagging] aerialway=mixed_lift

For reference, it is documented here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Piste_Maps#aerialway Maybe the aerialway tag page should reflect the pistemaps page. On 22 juillet 2014 09:33:48 UTC+02:00, Yves wrote: >mixed_lift is an old and established value. > >On 22 juillet 2014 09:15:44 UTC+02:00,

Re: [Tagging] highway=speed_camera equivalent for non-speed enforcement types

I hesitate to just invent a new highway=*_camera tag, beause I don't actually like it to be under the highway key (something accepted for the speed_camera probably only of historical reasons) You could see how big the support in the community is replace highway=speed_camera key with a man_made=

Re: [Tagging] aerialway=mixed_lift

mixed_lift is an old and established value. On 22 juillet 2014 09:15:44 UTC+02:00, Holger Jeromin wrote: > >Hello, > >I found the rare but (in winter sport areas) important mixed_lifts with >chairs and gondolas are not rendered on the osm mainpage. > >An issue for the rendering style >https://gi

Re: [Tagging] highway=speed_camera equivalent for non-speed enforcement types

> > > Why don't you just add anotd tag? > > note=This traffic light enforcement camera mapped as relation. Only edit > if you are an experienced mapper! > At the moment I've done exactly that, but in addition to the highway=speed_camera tag. (note=actualy a red-light camera; mapped with enforcemen

[Tagging] aerialway=mixed_lift

Hello, I found the rare but (in winter sport areas) important mixed_lifts with chairs and gondolas are not rendered on the osm mainpage. An issue for the rendering style https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/347 suggested a discussion about this tag here on the tagging list.