Re: [Tagging] Tagging for a pack station?

2013-08-30 Thread Tod Fitch
Hi, Interesting. Sounds like the equivalent of a hostel or mountain hut used by hikers or skiers but for equistrians. I don't know much about horses or the facilities for them. I know there are several buildings at the place I want to map one of which has been called a bunk house and another t

[Tagging] Tagging for a pack station?

2013-08-30 Thread dies38061
(response to message archived at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2013-August/014639.html ) I took a look around and likely the closest match, albeit still a far one, would be "Trail riding station" which is listed among features on the page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ri

Re: [Tagging] Ace Hardware

2013-08-30 Thread Johan C
It's also nice to keep things a bit simple in OSM, because all records in the database need correct input and maintenance. I'm already seeing a lot of confusion on petrol stations. Where I just want to find the nearest fuel station (yes, I would like to have 99% coverage of amenity=fuel in OSM worl

Re: [Tagging] Ace Hardware

2013-08-30 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > operator = Joe Smith, Proprietor. > affiliation = ACE Hardware Corporation > affiliation_2 = North East Hardware Cooperative This is exactly the kind of over-tagging I'd like to avoid. - Serge > With ACE what's important (I suppose) is

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Substation Refinement

2013-08-30 Thread Ole Nielsen
On 30/08/2013 10:55, bredy wrote: In Italy there are many substation like this Cabina Enel the line arrive in the building. How can I tag this? Actually building=yes + power=sub_station, but for JOSM if I connect del line wi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Substation Refinement

2013-08-30 Thread Ole Nielsen
On 30/08/2013 11:00, bredy wrote: Another question. But the pole with transformer is a substation? For me is better to tag it as a Pole because really I see a pole, not all people know a transformer. Then if I put transformer=yes I see there is a transformer in the pole. Agree, the transformer

Re: [Tagging] Ace Hardware

2013-08-30 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
While ACE is indeed a "franchise" since they file an annual FDD with the FTC how about something weaker than "franchise"? operator = North East McD Operating Company affiliation = McDonalds Corporation operator = Joe Smith, Proprietor. affiliation = ACE Hardware Corporation affiliation_2 =

Re: [Tagging] funny tags: turning_radius

2013-08-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 29.08.2013 16:07, André Pirard wrote: > "This tag was created for the specific needs > of logging [to tell which timbering vehicle can pass a bend]" More background here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Round_wood_transport_in_the_forest Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail fred

Re: [Tagging] Ranger Station Tag Update (too anglo-centric)?

2013-08-30 Thread Volker Schmidt
On 30 August 2013 12:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > IMHO use amenity=ranger_station - no need to hide it in a subtag. If this > is anglo centric other people where this feature doesn't exist simply won't > use the tag. > > +1 Volker (Padova, Italy)

Re: [Tagging] Ace Hardware

2013-08-30 Thread John Sturdy
+1 for "franchise="; that covers all types of franchises, and keeps clear of "operator=". __John ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Ace Hardware

2013-08-30 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Yeah, I think I like franchise too. cooperative is not really import from the consumer's standpoint. operator is good but separate, and yes there is overlap, just like there is with brand. Perhaps someone who likes to write will write this up as a proposal? - Serge _

Re: [Tagging] Ace Hardware

2013-08-30 Thread Brad Neuhauser
> > > I don't like the co-op tag because normally co-op has the connotation >> that the user of the store is a co-op member, not that the store is at a >> higher level. >> > i agree. a coop tag used in this manner will lead to confusion and > mistagging. > > +1

Re: [Tagging] Ranger Station Tag Update (too anglo-centric)?

2013-08-30 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > IMHO use amenity=ranger_station - no need to hide it in a subtag. If this > is anglo centric other people where this feature doesn't exist simply won't > use the tag. +1 -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch

Re: [Tagging] Ace Hardware

2013-08-30 Thread Richard Welty
On 8/30/13 9:12 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: I don't think the distinction in their governance is important for a map. There's a slippery slope somewhere where osm becomes wikipedia. What's important is that there's a hardware store, and the name it is known by. I would use franchise. If you want to

Re: [Tagging] Ace Hardware

2013-08-30 Thread Greg Troxel
I don't think the distinction in their governance is important for a map. There's a slippery slope somewhere where osm becomes wikipedia. What's important is that there's a hardware store, and the name it is known by. I would use franchise. If you want to make up "weak_franchise" for stores tha

Re: [Tagging] Ranger Station Tag Update (too anglo-centric)?

2013-08-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
IMHO use amenity=ranger_station - no need to hide it in a subtag. If this is anglo centric other people where this feature doesn't exist simply won't use the tag. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetma

Re: [Tagging] Ace Hardware

2013-08-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/8/30 Serge Wroclawski > Each store prominently displays the > Strosniders name and logo, employees wear the same uniforms, etc. > > They happen to be Ace Hardware storse, but as a consumer, I wouldn't > know unless I was looking for it. > i.e. you could tag them brand=Strosniders and coop

Re: [Tagging] Ace Hardware

2013-08-30 Thread Serge Wroclawski
The difference between Ace Hardware and a company like McDonalds is that in McDonalds, you will have very strong branding associated with the franchise. A consumer goes into a store labeled "McDonalds". But an Ace Hardware store is a complex beast, because the branding is all over the place, from

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Substation Refinement

2013-08-30 Thread François Lacombe
Same in France, we have many substations like the one on your picture bredy. We miss "wall attach" tag beside poles and towers to deal with those issues. 2013/8/30 bredy > Another question. > But the pole with transformer is a substation? > For me is better to tag it as a Pole because really I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Substation Refinement

2013-08-30 Thread bredy
Another question. But the pole with transformer is a substation? For me is better to tag it as a Pole because really I see a pole, not all people know a transformer. Then if I put transformer=yes I see there is a transformer in the pole. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.na

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Substation Refinement

2013-08-30 Thread bredy
In Italy there are many substation like this Cabina Enel the line arrive in the building. How can I tag this? Actually building=yes + power=sub_station, but for JOSM if I connect del line with the node of substation take me

Re: [Tagging] Ace Hardware

2013-08-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/8/30 Serge Wroclawski > And since each store is branded uniquely, and don't always use the > name Ace Hardware in their name[1] or other material, I don't think > "brand" fits either. > > But we may want to indicate that the relationship between store and > co-op exists, so in this case, sin