On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:12:05 -0700, Simon Biber wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
>> The way I've been handling this is to stretch the limits of the
>>bicycle=destination tag; if it's more major than residential, open to
>>bicycles, but lacks shoulders and has narrow lanes or on-street
>>parking, t
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:41:21 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Paul Johnson
> wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 04:26:42 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
>>> Bike lanes aren't exclusive either - cars move into them to turn right
>>> (in right-hand-drive countries) and cro
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 22:11:46 +1000, John Smith wrote:
>> least in American English, a cellar door is something you dive under
>> when there's a tornado coming right for you.
>
> How many cellar door tourism locations serve as tornado shelters? :)
Given that, to date, I've only ever needed them w
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:33:46 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Paul Johnson
> wrote:
>> This could also be useful for highways; OR 99W, for example, is NOT
>> trailblazed between Barbur Boulevard and the Washington state line.
>
> Why would you expect it to be?
> h
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 11:10:29 +0200, Pieren wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Paul Johnson
> wrote:
>
>
>> > From the wiki it looks like something smaller or more restricted than
>> > a regular residential street, but bigger than a driveway.
>>
>>
> It's not smaller, physically it's a res
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:32 AM, John Smith wrote:
> On 10 August 2010 11:30, Richard Welty wrote:
>> not sure it's wise to try and tag for crop types. many farms
>> do rotate their crops, after all. not the same from year to year,
>> and all that.
>
> In the area I grew up in they rotated twice
On 10 August 2010 11:30, Richard Welty wrote:
> not sure it's wise to try and tag for crop types. many farms
> do rotate their crops, after all. not the same from year to year,
> and all that.
In the area I grew up in they rotated twice a year in some cases...
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On 8/9/10 9:13 PM, Liz wrote:
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Steve Bennett wrote:
Wish there was an agriculture=* tag. Life could be simple:
well living in an agricultural area
I'd start with
agriculture=
not sure it's wise to try and tag for crop types. many farms
do rotate their crops, after all. not
On 10 August 2010 11:13, Liz wrote:
> More suggestions welcome to complicate SteveB's life.
lucine
soy beans
sunflowers
legumes
cotton
peacan nuts
strawberry
potatoes
etc etc etc
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Steve Bennett wrote:
> Wish there was an agriculture=* tag. Life could be simple:
well living in an agricultural area
I'd start with
agriculture=
rice
wheat
hops
barley
canola (modified rape seed > CAnadaOiLa)
grapes (subtypes table/wine or variety)
citrus (subtypes needed)
On 3/08/2010 10:50 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
Do these cameras store orientation data?
No, it's just a camera. My GPS does, though, so theoretically I could
stick my GPS on my helmet as well. Would be heavy, though.
Steve
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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Do they actually have a vineyard on site? At least locally (US:OR), a
> winery can't call itself a vineyard unless they're growing their grapes
> on site, though you can call yourself a winery whether or not you grow on-
> site (and indeed, th
On 8 August 2010 20:02, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > Coming up with tagging schemes for stuff like this hard, because of the
> > different ways different countries group stuff. I was recently in an
> > ambulance in France, and chatting with the people inside I was surprised
> > to learn that in additi
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Dave F. wrote:
> On 08/08/2010 20:40, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> The way I've been handling this is to stretch the limits of the
>> bicycle=destination tag; if it's more major than residential, open to
>> bicycles, but lacks shoulders and has narrow lanes or on-street
On 08/08/2010 20:40, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:38:10 -0400, Daniel Tremblay wrote:
My need is to give cyclists more info when preparing their rides on road
that are not cycleway (nor NCN, RCN, LCN). I saw the tag "rtc_rate" but
not find it very intuitive.
The way I've been h
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Anthony wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> The way I've been handling this is to stretch the limits of the
>> bicycle=destination tag; if it's more major than residential, open to
>> bicycles, but lacks shoulders and has narrow lanes or
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> The way I've been handling this is to stretch the limits of the
> bicycle=destination tag; if it's more major than residential, open to
> bicycles, but lacks shoulders and has narrow lanes or on-street parking,
> then I tag it bicycle=destinati
On 9 August 2010 04:47, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Why not tag it that way? That seems more clear, particularly since at
We plan to now, however up until I made that comment no one else
seemed to have a better suggestion.
> least in American English, a cellar door is something you dive under when
>
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, Pieren wrote:
> > > From the wiki it looks like something smaller or more restricted than a
> > > regular residential street, but bigger than a driveway.
>
> It's not smaller, physically it's a residential street that is transformed
> to a living street. The difference is the v
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Why would this matter?
I don't know
> Are there actually places where it's legal to
> operate off the hard surface when the road is paved?
Yes
25 years ago in outback Queensland the tightfisted government of the
gerrymander king, Joh Bjelke-Peteresen, u
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:20:33 +0100, Richard Mann wrote:
> > Most of these call themselves vineyards
> >
> > http://www.englishwineproducers.com/scvineyard.htm
>
> Do they actually have a vineyard on site? At least locally (US:OR), a
> winery can't call i
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 11:36:52AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >> I have expanded it a bit to help motivate "trade" for those who haven't
> >> seen this thread. Surely "wood" is redundant given "timber_yard"?
> >
> > There are specialty places that sell upmarket timber/wood but wouldn't
> > call
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 04:26:42 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
>> Bike lanes aren't exclusive either - cars move into them to turn right
>> (in right-hand-drive countries) and cross them at intersections or to
>> reach parallel parking. They open
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> This could also be useful for highways; OR 99W, for example, is NOT
> trailblazed between Barbur Boulevard and the Washington state line.
Why would you expect it to be?
http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/TRAFFIC-ROADWAY/docs/pdf/Descriptions_of_US
On 08/08/2010 20:07, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:27:49 -0700, Simon Biber wrote:
From: John Smith
Did I miss anything currently being mentioned in this or the fire
hydrant
thread?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Emergency
I note you've changed ambulance stat
On 08/08/2010 19:56, Paul Johnson wrote:
By the way, the
default layer for ways is 1, not 0. layer=1, bridge=yes would be the
same layer as ground-level objects.
Where did you get that idea?
"Map features without a layer tag are assumed to reside on layer "0"."
http://wiki.openstreetmap.o
On 9 August 2010 04:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:59:58 +0900, S.Higashi wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> How about a fire extinguisher[1]?
>
> Why not just call it fire_equipment, then?
I'm guessing in this case it may be useful to indicate on maps the
types of fires that can be put out
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:59:58 +0900, S.Higashi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How about a fire extinguisher[1]?
Why not just call it fire_equipment, then?
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On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:50:02 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Anthony
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Nathan Edgars II
>> wrote:
>>> Shoulders are actually more important to pedestrians than cyclists. A
>>> good cyclist won't care if there's a shoulder
On 08/08/2010 20:39, Paul Johnson wrote:
Let this side of the Atlantic win at least one tagging war,
please...after all, we call them freeways and expressways, not motorways
and trunks; guess who won that one?
Surely the whole point is that there shouldn't be these tagging wars.
There is (I th
Am 09.08.2010 09:52, schrieb John Smith:
> On 9 August 2010 05:55, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> That tag seems rather awkward, but it does bring up a good point about
>
> The rest of your email described seasonal conditions that are the same
> year in and year out, but for most of Australia there isn't
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> > From the wiki it looks like something smaller or more restricted than a
> > regular residential street, but bigger than a driveway.
>
It's not smaller, physically it's a residential street that is transformed
to a living street. The diffe
Why not tag the bus stop generically, and make it a member of route
relations for the routes that serve the stop?
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Am 07.08.2010 00:25, schrieb Richard Welty:
> yes, i voted no because of the move back to amenity. while i understand
> the reluctance to switch over the existing tags in a rush, there's little
> reason not to start using emergency for new tags.
+1
skyper
2010/8/8 Paul Johnson :
> Don't tag layers unless it's not the default layers.
+1
> By the way, the
> default layer for ways is 1, not 0. layer=1, bridge=yes would be the
> same layer as ground-level objects.
No, it's 0.
-Martin
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On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:40:49 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> I wouldn't tag the former as
> anything, and the latter might be cycleway=sharrow; of course if either
> is part of a marked cycle route it would get the appropriate *cn tag.
That's getting way too specific when we already have bicycle
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 11:33:27 +0300, Peteris Krisjanis wrote:
> Maybe US law just hopes that driver would be very reasonable and won't
> charge at 60 in a backyard :)
Clearly you have never encountered someone who is guilty of driving while
Californian...
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On 9 August 2010 04:36, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Right, but what are we calling them? The Phillips gas stations (76 and
shop=trade
trade=wood
?
> Phillips 66 in particular) generally regard themselves as being "upscale"
> and generally nicer than, say, BP's ARCO. That doesn't stop both from
> bei
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:57:40 +1000, John Smith wrote:
> On 31 July 2010 19:46, ael
> wrote:
>> I have expanded it a bit to help motivate "trade" for those who haven't
>> seen this thread. Surely "wood" is redundant given "timber_yard"?
>
> There are specialty places that sell upmarket timber/woo
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 17:59:43 +0200, Colin Smale wrote:
> On 02/08/2010 17:28, Anthony wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:56 AM,
>> Anthony wrote:
>>> If I wanted the list of colors to be controlled and finite I'd use a
>>> check constraint.
>> By the way, if I were going to use a separate table
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:18:23 -0700, Alan Mintz wrote:
> Tag where it's signed, which is generally the exception to the default.
> In places where the law is no-U-turn by default, I would expect to see
> "U-turn OK" signs where they are allowed. In places where the law is
> that U-turns are allowed
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:56:53 +0200, fly wrote:
> Am 29.07.2010 14:38, schrieb Daniel Tremblay:
>> My need is to give cyclists more info when preparing their rides on
>> road that are not cycleway (nor NCN, RCN, LCN). I saw the tag
>> "rtc_rate" but not find it very intuitive.
>
> We need this ki
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 21:29:59 +0100, Richard Mann wrote:
> You can drive on some cycle lanes
[citation needed]
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On 9 August 2010 05:55, Paul Johnson wrote:
> That tag seems rather awkward, but it does bring up a good point about
The rest of your email described seasonal conditions that are the same
year in and year out, but for most of Australia there isn't seasonal
conditions in the same sense, the weathe
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:46:06 +1000, John Smith wrote:
> On 2 August 2010 19:39, Dave F.
> wrote:
>> This has nothing to do with weather conditions, but a stupid driver
>> ignoring signed warnings.
>
> Perhaps not the best example of what Liz was thinking of, however this
> is a better example:
>
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:05:58 +0200, Vidar Gundersen wrote:
> hi,
> there are several tagging schemes for tagging marked, or trail blazed,
> paths. people who are tagging hiking trails have seen a need to simplify
> and normalize this tagging, see the suggestion at
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.or
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:01:00 +0100, Dave F. wrote:
> I'm easily confused at the best of times, & with the lengthy discussions
> threads getting split up, I'm completely lost. (& from looking at some
> of the replies, I suspect I'm not alone).
Along those same lines, quit starting new threads, fol
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:27:49 -0700, Simon Biber wrote:
> From: John Smith
>
>
>> Did I miss anything currently being mentioned in this or the fire
>> hydrant
>>thread?
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Emergency
>
> I note you've changed ambulance stations and emergency phon
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:43:38 +1000, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:19 PM, John Smith
> wrote:
>> In Australia the ambulance service is a completely different
>> organisation to fire and police and I can almost bet some would be
>> tagged amenity=ambulance or amenity=ambulance_st
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:58:12 +0100, Richard Mann wrote:
> The traditional layer=0 / layer=1+bridge=yes / layer=0 tagging is
> unaltered (the renderer sees the bridge=yes and suppresses end caps).
> The main place you end up changing the tags is for grade-separated
> junctions, for example:
Don't
On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 19:40:55 -0700, Alan Millar wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 11:20 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> After having come across a few ways tagged "highway=living_street" in
>> Troutdale, Oregon; I have to wonder what exactly would qualify such a
>> street as a living street given that
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:02:54 +1000, John Smith wrote:
> On 30 July 2010 17:42, Steve Bennett
> wrote:
>> My two cents:
>>
>> "winery" is a better term than "vineyard" because, in some contexts at
>> least, the two have distinct meanings. "cellar door" is a bad term
>> because it will be taken lit
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