Re: [sword-devel] Localisation of front-end apps

2020-06-01 Thread Tuomas Airaksinen
Hi, On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 10:34 PM David Haslam wrote: > The *transifex* figure of *0%* strings translated for *English (United > Kingdom)* seems rather bizarre to me. > > Even if *And Bible* were deemed to have been written in *English (United > States)*, that would still make little sense. >

Re: [sword-devel] NA28 shows no verses

2020-06-01 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 6/1/20 8:41 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > Merging the Windows FileMgr patch you have been keeping for Xiphos > into something build configurable. Y'know, what that patch provides is something needed by virtually all Sword apps.  Xiphos just ran into it headlong the hard way, way back when 3.0

Re: [sword-devel] Localisation of front-end apps

2020-06-01 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 6/1/20 8:18 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > Heck, could there even be a general open source translation library > for the many common strings that modern UIs have. OK, Cancel, Edit, > Open, Save, Help. The big-name toolkits like GTK have exactly those already. Try "strings /usr/share/locale/sv/L

Re: [sword-devel] NA28 shows no verses

2020-06-01 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Great. Right. The final things I had on my to-do list for this release: Renaming the __u64 style macros to something like SW_u64. Merging the Windows FileMgr patch you have been keeping for Xiphos into something build configurable. A large refactoring commit I have locally which completes the c

Re: [sword-devel] NA28 shows no verses

2020-06-01 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 3:57 PM Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > No, The DBG wanted to discourage sharing of license keys by creating > unique keys per user and embedding some part of the user's name in the key > to let them know their identity will be known if they share. It is not > enforced to any p

Re: [sword-devel] Localisation of front-end apps

2020-06-01 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 2:54 PM Michael H wrote: > It seems Bibletime also uses transifex. > > It sure seems like there's a lot of duplication here.. is it possible to > somehow produce a Crosswire UI translation table instead of 8-10 app > translation tables? > This has been a question I've pond

Re: [sword-devel] Localisation of front-end apps

2020-06-01 Thread David Haslam
The transifex figure of 0% strings translated for English (United Kingdom) seems rather bizarre to me. Even if And Bible were deemed to have been written in English (United States), that would still make little sense. And we know that our friend Martin Denham is British. Even so, it's also app

Re: [sword-devel] NA28 shows no verses

2020-06-01 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 6/1/20 4:56 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > > I am not sure what Xiphos is using for their new release. > Greg has produced sword-1.8.1-19 for Fedora & similar, which is (I understand) 1.8.1 plus a few recent patches, mostly obviously to bring in the no-self-closing-div patch.  Yes, we could use

[sword-devel] xml2gbs command line parameters

2020-06-01 Thread David Haslam
The usage help for xml2gbs says nothing about paths. This requires fixing. xml2gbs [-l] [-i] [-fT|-fO|-fE] [modname] Are we to assume that includes the input/path ? Are we to assume that [modname] includes the output/path ? Best regards, David Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.

Re: [sword-devel] Localisation of front-end apps

2020-06-01 Thread David Haslam
I think all of us need to become more proactive in acting as ambassadors for recruiting front-end localisation volunteers. Each of us must have a growing list of international contacts, so it's something we should remember to ask them where appropriate and as such opportunities arise in our oth

Re: [sword-devel] Maximum line length 8192 in RawGenBook modules‽‽‽

2020-06-01 Thread David Haslam
The help for Sword utility xml2gbs reads as follows: xml2gbs 1.0 OSIS/ThML/TEI General Book module creation tool for the SWORD Project usage: xml2gbs [-l] [-i] [-fT|-fO|-fE] [modname] -l uses long div names in ThML files -i exports to IMP format instead of creating a module -fO, -fT,

Re: [sword-devel] The Digital Bible Library® ??? What do you think?

2020-06-01 Thread Matěj Cepl
On Sun, 24 May 2020 13:11:52 -1000 Michael Johnson wrote: I contribute some Bible translations to the DBL. If there are any in there that were submitted by "eBible.org" with problems, please let me know, specifically, what the problems are to correct them. See https://gitlab.com/crosswire-bib

Re: [sword-devel] The Digital Bible Library® ??? What do you think?

2020-06-01 Thread Matěj Cepl
On Sun, 24 May 2020 13:54:20 -0700 Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Maybe I am misunderstanding, but I think Matěj is suggesting that the publisher of the CzeB21 is telling us that our next module update of the CzeB21 should come from their text they have uploaded to the DBL. My real question was wha

Re: [sword-devel] NA28 shows no verses

2020-06-01 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
No, The DBG wanted to discourage sharing of license keys by creating unique keys per user and embedding some part of the user's name in the key to let them know their identity will be known if they share.  It is not enforced to any particular OS login or anything. Some of this delay is my fault. 

Re: [sword-devel] NA28 shows no verses

2020-06-01 Thread Michael H
I tried the license in Bibletime 3.0, and it fails to authorize. I've tried to authorize the NA28 on Alkitab Bible Study 4.0 (Build 20200510) and it fails to authorize. I haven't figured out how to install the latest Xiphos yet (on an Ubuntu 18.04 system running Cinnamon desktop... still wait

Re: [sword-devel] Not user-friendly behavior in commentaries (should be continuous)

2020-06-01 Thread John Dudeck
This sounds like a problem with (at least the Windows version of) the osis2mod compiler that I complained about years ago, where it does not link all verses in a verse range to the commentary article. For some reason I can't find those messages in my archives. I'm thinking that Build 3431 (64-b

Re: [sword-devel] NA28 shows no verses

2020-06-01 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Hi Michael, Our online study tools have some linkage to the NTVMR. http://crosswire.org/study/parallelstudy.jsp?del=all&add=KJV&add=TR&add=Treg&add=NASB Click on a word, then click: show textual evidence. It also has the Manuscript Coverage tab which gets its data from Münster, as well. That t

Re: [sword-devel] NA28 shows no verses

2020-06-01 Thread Michael H
Apparently BibleWorks fell apart last fall. Bibleworks had features similar to Bishop where from an open verse at least some manuscript images were available for view directly to that verse. This made it popular with Biblical Criticism folks. In a facebook group dedicated to Bible Criticism (readi

Re: [sword-devel] Localisation of front-end apps

2020-06-01 Thread Michael H
It seems Bibletime also uses transifex. It sure seems like there's a lot of duplication here.. is it possible to somehow produce a Crosswire UI translation table instead of 8-10 app translation tables? On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 2:34 PM David Haslam wrote: > The *transifex* figure of *0%* strings t

Re: [sword-devel] Not user-friendly behavior in commentaries (should be continuous)

2020-06-01 Thread yvand
Thank you for the clarification and help. Don't duplicate: As Fr. Cyrille has pointed out, SWORD supports entry linking. So, you don't need to duplicate anything, just supply all the verses to which an entry should be associated. That's exactly that I expected (avoid duplication and use entry

Re: [sword-devel] Not user-friendly behavior in commentaries (should be continuous)

2020-06-01 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
As David has said, please be careful about your syntax between osisID and osisRef. osisID="Gen.7.17-Gen.8.5" is invalid. This would be a valid osisRef. osisIDs are how you assign text to a verse entry in SWORD. osisIDs do not take ranges; they take lists. Don't duplicate: As Fr. Cyrille has poi

Re: [sword-devel] Not user-friendly behavior in commentaries (should be continuous)

2020-06-01 Thread David Haslam
Is anyone in this thread confusing osisID syntax and osisRef syntax ? Just a thought David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 15:11, Fr Cyrille wrote: > Le 01/06/2020 à 15:14, yvand a écrit : > >> Le 01/06/2020 à 13:20, Fr Cyrille a écrit : >> >>> Le 01/06/2020 à 11:16, yv

Re: [sword-devel] Not user-friendly behavior in commentaries (should be continuous)

2020-06-01 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 8:29 AM yvand wrote: > > > On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 11:19 AM Karl Kleinpaste > wrote: > >> On 5/30/20 11:45 AM, yvand wrote: >> >> I think Karl already talked about this feature in the past. But maybe I >> am wrong, I did not find the conversation. >> >> >> Xiphos has a fea

Re: [sword-devel] Not user-friendly behavior in commentaries (should be continuous)

2020-06-01 Thread Fr Cyrille
Le 01/06/2020 à 15:14, yvand a écrit : > Le 01/06/2020 à 13:20, Fr Cyrille a écrit : >> Le 01/06/2020 à 11:16, yvand a écrit : >>> If I change all the OSIS references to match every verses, I hope the >>> module size will not grow 20 times. And if I do so, for frontends like >>> Xiphos which have

Re: [sword-devel] Not user-friendly behavior in commentaries (should be continuous)

2020-06-01 Thread yvand
On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 11:19 AM Karl Kleinpaste > wrote: On 5/30/20 11:45 AM, yvand wrote: I think Karl already talked about this feature in the past. But maybe I am wrong, I did not find the conversation. Xiphos has a feature, "commentary by c

Re: [sword-devel] Not user-friendly behavior in commentaries (should be continuous)

2020-06-01 Thread yvand
Le 01/06/2020 à 13:20, Fr Cyrille a écrit : Le 01/06/2020 à 11:16, yvand a écrit : If I change all the OSIS references to match every verses, I hope the module size will not grow 20 times. And if I do so, for frontends like Xiphos which have a "commentary by chapter" view, the frontend will dupl

Re: [sword-devel] Not user-friendly behavior in commentaries (should be continuous)

2020-06-01 Thread Fr Cyrille
Le 01/06/2020 à 11:16, yvand a écrit : > If I change all the OSIS references to match every verses, I hope the > module size will not grow 20 times. And if I do so, for frontends like > Xiphos which have a "commentary by chapter" view, the frontend will > duplicate the commentary or use a hack to

Re: [sword-devel] Not user-friendly behavior in commentaries (should be continuous)

2020-06-01 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 6/1/20 2:54 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: > I think so. Since Bibles are by chapter, it makes sense to have > commentaries as well. I already did it.  See #1036. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listi

Re: [sword-devel] Not user-friendly behavior in commentaries (should be continuous)

2020-06-01 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
I think modules should faithfully reflect the text and not contain any hacks. Bugs in presentation are then firmly owned by the engine or any frontends which may or may not be deficient.   Insofar as most frontends look at Bible texts by chapter (with or without additional easy scrolling) it see

Re: [sword-devel] Not user-friendly behavior in commentaries (should be continuous)

2020-06-01 Thread yvand
Thanks for the answers. Some advise to duplicate the commentary for every verse (Ps.23.1, Ps.23.2, Ps.23.3, etc.) and some said it is a frontend issue. I am still a bit lose and disappointed for the end users. I don't understand why for commentaries, the OSIS reference "Ps.23-1.5" is not the