Re: [sword-devel] Release 1.8.1

2018-01-08 Thread Greg Hellings
I would also like to add that the release process can be seen here: http://ci.crosswire.org/job/sword-release/18/ --Greg On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:03 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > Coming quickly on the heels of 1.8.0, I'm happy to announce the release of > the engine's 1.8.1 release. This release

[sword-devel] Release 1.8.1

2018-01-08 Thread Greg Hellings
Coming quickly on the heels of 1.8.0, I'm happy to announce the release of the engine's 1.8.1 release. This release primarily comprises some updates to the bindings, including fixing the SWIG bindings to compile against the 1.8 series and a few fixups to the CMake scripts relating to testing. Plea

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD-CD

2018-01-08 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
Possibly, though I would guess we could add the process of creating the CD (there are scripts etc for that) and make it useful for people who want to create their own CDs.   Peter   Gesendet: Montag, 08. Januar 2018 um 16:00 Uhr Von: "David Haslam" An: "sword-devel mailing list" Betreff: Re:

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread David Haslam
Thanks Troy, Very helpful background to the discussion and today's flurry of activity. I just wish I'd been included before rather than after. Admittedly, you never see me in the IRC channel for CrossWire or SWORD. I've never found IRC an attractive means of communication, but that may just refl

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD-CD

2018-01-08 Thread David Haslam
Hi Peter, Since it's already advertised from crosswire.org main website, why do we also need it in the developers' wiki ? Isn't this pointless duplication (of the very sort we're trying to get rid of) ? Best regards, David Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > --

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Thanks all for this effort.  I woke up this morning delightfully surprised.  Just a little background to what sparked this. A year or so ago when we moved to a new hosting facility, we used the opportunity to begin migrating from RHEL 6 to RHEL 7 (CentOS, really).  We did this by encapsulating a c

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread jhphx
For those that may not know, there are auto utilities to check websites or lists of pages for broken links and then generate a nice report on the nature of the bad links. That report could even be posted, perhaps on its own page. Jerry On 1/8/2018 2:22 AM, David Haslam wrote: Dead links are

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD-CD

2018-01-08 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
I think this is still active, yes. Some friends of Troy in Phoenix handle it completely without any reference to the rest of us.   Peter   Gesendet: Montag, 08. Januar 2018 um 14:36 Uhr Von: "David Haslam" An: "sword-devel mailing list" Betreff: [sword-devel] SWORD-CD Is there still any de

[sword-devel] SWORD-CD

2018-01-08 Thread David Haslam
Is there still any demand for the SWORD-CD ? When was the last CD ordered? Isn't this something we no longer need to advertise in the main page of our developers' wiki ? I won't delete this line until we hear from Troy. Best regards, David Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secur

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
Dear all, I am not acting in anger, and i am sorry if my language ("Shooting on sight") seemed to imply so. Nevertheless I am acting fairly ruthlessly as the duplication and the amount of outdated info has grown to simply unacceptable levels. I have for a long time avoided looking into some

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread Tom Sullivan
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Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread Tom Sullivan
Y'all: If I may comment on the Wiki and documentation in general: I was invited to this list by DM Smith due to questions as a Sword and front-end user and module developer, so ... It seems that we have three categories of users on this forum, and all should be served by the forum and the Wi

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread David Haslam
Peter, The human factor in all this should not be underestimated. Deletions and reversions can have a profoundly negative impact to discourage future additions or edits. I can recall how Chris Burrell as a newbie to the wiki spend a huge amount of time to add a lot of detailed information abou

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread David Haslam
Peter, The amount of time required to review deletions is generally much greater than that required to review additions. So to say that "a delete is just a step away from a revert" actually obscures this important consideration. I've no intenton to start revert wars, but this culling and pruni

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread Cyrille
Le 08/01/2018 à 11:22, David Haslam a écrit : > Peter, > > Please bear in mind that as a small community, we use a lot of > *in-house jargon* as well as general *computer technology jargon*. > > Remember too that first-time visitors to the wiki may not even know > (e.g.) the difference between a

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread David Haslam
Peter, Please bear in mind that as a small community, we use a lot of in-house jargon as well as general computer technology jargon. Remember too that first-time visitors to the wiki may not even know (e.g.) the difference between a front-end and a back-end. It's not unreasonable to provide li

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
No anger. Just the need to clear some space in the wiki to make it readable again.   We do need a balance of "deletism" and addition of content. Preferably within the same people, as this removes any doubt of upset and as we are a very small group. But as it is I think a deliberate and deep cutt

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread Cyrille
Le 08/01/2018 à 10:28, Peter von Kaehne a écrit : > On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 10:18 +0100, L'Africain wrote: >> About the wiki, the link to the perl script to convert imp to osis is >> dead. > If you have no account, please get one, email to DM. I have no account. I tried to open one, without success

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread David Haslam
Peter, It comes over from that last reply that you are acting out of anger. Please pause - you are at serious risk of upsetting your friends. If anyone has upset you, please take this up with them in private. Not everyone that reads our developers' wiki is highly technical. Best regards, Davi

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread David Haslam
Dear Johan, That question should really be a new thread. It's unrelated to the topic of this thread. SWORD modules (OSIS or otherwise) are not intended to be used as the starting point to generate other publishing formats. Best regards, David Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Se

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 08:08 +, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 07:40 +, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > > We are currently engaging in a bit of culling and pruning > > activity. > I will be shooting Wikipedia links more or less on sight. Many of these are either irrelevant or a

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread David Haslam
Peter, Talk pages should not be pruned. That's against the general philosophy for a wiki. Talk pages should be used to discuss potential or actual changes for improving the page itself. Retaining these discussions is important. Best regards, David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Mon, Jan 8,

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread Johan Marais
Is there a way to convert an OSIS Bible module to an ebook (either mobi or epub) format? Thank you, Johan Marais On 08 Jan 2018, at 11:22, David Haslam wrote: Dead links are a perennial problem. Thanks for the alert. Best regards, David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile > On Mon, Jan 8, 201

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 10:18 +0100, L'Africain wrote: > About the wiki, the link to the perl script to convert imp to osis is > dead. If you have no account, please get one, email to DM. And then change what you see is dead or moved. Thanks! Peter ___

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 10:16 +0200, Jaak Ristioja wrote: > On 08.01.2018 10:08, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > > Please help by keeping contact details etc up date - for your own > > projects in particular (Project website, mailing lists, source, > > covered > > platforms) > > When will the wiki registr

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 08:08 +, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 07:40 +, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > > We are currently engaging in a bit of culling and pruning > > activity. Specific stuff - please cull Talk pages to size whereever you see them. No need to archive. No dis

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread David Haslam
Dead links are a perennial problem. Thanks for the alert. Best regards, David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 09:18, L'Africain wrote: > About the wiki, the link to the perl script to convert imp to osis is dead. > Le 08/01/2018 à 09:08, Peter von Kaehne a écrit : > On Mon

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread L'Africain
About the wiki, the link to the perl script to convert imp to osis is dead. Le 08/01/2018 à 09:08, Peter von Kaehne a écrit : > On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 07:40 +, Peter von Kaehne wrote: >> We are currently engaging in a bit of culling and pruning activity. > Project links: > > I am culling all

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread Jaak Ristioja
On 08.01.2018 10:08, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Please help by keeping contact details etc up date - for your own > projects in particular (Project website, mailing lists, source, covered > platforms) When will the wiki registration be open again? I think I've lost access to my old account, because

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

2018-01-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 07:40 +, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > We are currently engaging in a bit of culling and pruning activity. Project links: I am culling all Project pages on the wiki back to the bare minimum - it is not useful to duplicate info and make new developers think that the outdated