Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Arthur Sauer
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Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Peter Lennox
Thanks - that's clarified things. -I've always taken precedence to be the "shift towards" rather than the measure that stipulates " localised at the exact direction of the leading sound in the presence of lagging sound (e.g. full phantom image shift to one loudspeaker position), if the delay tim

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 12/09/2015 03:00 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: i've attached the paper, since it is open access. well, i meant to, but apparently the attachment got eaten. here it is: http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=18040 -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Peter Lennox
Thanks for that - having quickly dashed through it, it does seem that, with a fadein/out of 1s, that there are no onset transients to speak of and so I would expect precedence effects to be largely neutralised, leaving the primary cues for location to be spectral cues - but in that case, I wasn'

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
(wallis > and lee 2015) > > On 12/08/2015 09:07 PM, Peter Lennox wrote: > > no -percedence effects include a range of phenomena. But precedence in > > the median plane isn't quite as effective as in the azimuthal plane, > > according to Litovsky, Rakerd, Hartmann et al, but is st

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Peter Lennox
ge- > From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of > J?rn Nettingsmeier > Sent: 09 December 2015 14:00 > To: Surround Sound discussion group > Subject: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation > (wallis and lee 2015) > > On 12

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

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Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Hyunkook Lee
On Thu Dec 10 07:26:49 EST 2015, Peter Lennox wrote: > Notably, Shinn-Cunningham also describes the disproportionate weighting of > onsets in > precedence effects : " Perceptually, judgments of the direction of a sound > source depend > strongly on spatial information in the onset of sound and re

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Peter Lennox
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Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Peter Lennox
That raises the interesting question of 'how transient is a transient' to be effective in respect of precedence effects? - my guess would be that the figure would not be the same in the median and azimuthal planes. With you noise bursts and 'proper' instruments, was the 7dB constant, or did it

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

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Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

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Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Peter Lennox
Of course, the paradigm that excludes head-tilt - necessary to control for experimental variables, does mean that the experiment is not representative (what some people refer to as 'ecological validity') of real-world localisation. Given that, when I look around the lecture theatre, 40%+ have, a

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Peter Lennox
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Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Hyunkook Lee
> That raises the interesting question of 'how transient is a transient' to be > effective in respect of precedence effects? - my guess would be that the > figure would not be the same in the median and azimuthal planes. >From what I've found so far, transient doesn't really help vertical >loca

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 12/10/2015 04:59 PM, Peter Lennox wrote: It does imply that an ambisonic panner plugin that incorporates spectral manipulation would be more efficacious noo! if it's an ambisonic panner, it doesn't change the spectrum. if it changes the spectrum, it's not an ambisonic panner :) --

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

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